random openbox chatter

[fuscia]

so as not to bog down the desktop pics thread, i've started this openbox thread. (watch no one show up now.) i'll be right back...

[curuxz]

*stands around* erm what are we suposed to do now we HAVE shown up?

Im confused and mostly I want to go home

[raublekick]

thank you, fuscia!

ok so here goes: i added Gaim to my menu, right below Web browser. Great! Now, is there a way I can make a sub menu isntead? i'm sure there is, i've just never used xml before.

next, i need some sort of panel with a clock and other stuff on it. in installed pypanel but have no idea how to use it. obconf has the dock section, but i see no dock.

third and final question for now: can you use GTK+2 themes at all, or am i stuck with gtk+?

[fuscia]

first of all, there is already a pretty slick howto, by stormy eyes - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...hlight=openbox

raublekick asked about menu editing. there's a nice little app called 'obmenu' which is drunken child easy to use - http://obmenu.sourceforge.net/index.html
installing it can be a pain in the butt trying to figure out what pyglade is called in synaptic.
here's a screenshot of my openbox right-click menu...



another thing that baffles people when they first try openbox is the absolutely instant appearance of a black screen upon logging in. it is blank. right-click and you'll find the default menu. you'll have to use another program to set the background wallpaper. i use feh, but others can be used.

what did i leave out?

oh! it's faster than asterisks!

[fuscia]

Originally Posted by raublekick thank you, fuscia!

my pleasure.

ok so here goes: i added Gaim to my menu, right below Web browser. Great! Now, is there a way I can make a sub menu isntead? i'm sure there is, i've just never used xml before.

obmenu will cure all your ills, my friend.

next, i need some sort of panel with a clock and other stuff on it. in installed pypanel but have no idea how to use it. obconf has the dock section, but i see no dock.

you can enter pypanel in the terminal, put it on your menu (i have 'on' and 'off' in sub-menues for both pypanel and conky), or put pypanel & exec openbox in your .xinitrc file and it will start upon logging in.

i never have, don't currently, nor ever will get this 'dock' thing. meh.

third and final question for now: can you use GTK+2 themes at all, or am i stuck with gtk+?

i've made a few of my own openbox themes. they're easy to make. i wouldn't know a gtk theme unless i knew it were a gtk theme.

*stands around* erm what are we suposed to do now we HAVE shown up? Im confused and mostly I want to go home

now, now. patience...

[RAV TUX]

Originally Posted by fuscia first of all, there is already a pretty slick howto, by stormy eyes - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...hlight=openbox

Openbox reminds me of Morphing-Morphix.

http://www.morphix.org/index.php?opt...d=64&Itemid=59

[PapaWiskas]

OK fuscia, because I am an idiot I need some clarification if you dont mind.

I go to my synaptic to double check if I have all my dependencies for this obmenu thingy....since the last time I tried openbox, which I really, really, really want to get working, and all I had was a blank screen with nothing and it freaked me out, and for some reason, the right click did not bring up any menus at all. So I got scared and dumped it, fearing that I had called upon some evil demons and my Ubuntu was going to be hosed forever.

Where was I? Oh yeah....these dependencies....I doubled checked and I do have python installed...in the installed version column in synaptic is says version number is 2.4.2-0ubuntu3, I assume this is good enough because it says it needs at least python 2.3 or better. Am I right, I am good to go there?
However...pygtk and pyglade I could not find those exclusively by those names. But I am wondering is pyglade the same thing as python-glade2 2.8.6-0ubuntu1 (which I already have installed) or do I need the python-glade1.2 which is not installed, or am I just stupid and neither of those is what I need. I also have python-gtk2 2.8.6-0ubuntu1 installed but not python-gtk-1.2, so are either of those the same thing as pygtk?

I think I have it all covered but just am not 100% sure I am correct in my assumptions.

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

Best Regards,
Papa

[fuscia]

papa, python#.#-glade and python#.#-gtk are right. i'm not sure which version worked, though. i'm one of those people who just keeps installing junk until it works. you may need the dev packages, as well, but i don't remember. sorry to be so vaguely helpful.

edit: if anything, this thread proves the old saying "in the kingdom of the blind, it is the one-eyed guy who gets to pick the movie."

[PapaWiskas]

Originally Posted by fuscia you can enter pypanel in the terminal, put it on your menu (i have 'on' and 'off' in sub-menues for both pypanel and conky), or put pypanel & exec openbox in your .xinitrc file and it will start upon logging in.

How did you do that...what is the command to turn a particular program off and on. I have pypanel entry that will turn it on, but not one to turn it off.

Also I used feh to set a background, but when I logged back in the background was blank again....how do I get my desktop image to stay?

[fuscia]

Originally Posted by PapaWiskas How did you do that...what is the command to turn a particular program off and on. I have pypanel entry that will turn it on, but not one to turn it off.

select 'new menu' and make it pypanel, then create a 'new item' for 'on' and one for 'off. for 'on' the command is simply pypanel. for 'off'. the command is killall pypanel.

Also I used feh to set a background, but when I logged back in the background was blank again....how do I get my desktop image to stay?

no idea. i change my wallpaper so often, i 'don't care if it's not there when i log in.