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Thread: DIfferent advice from Update-Manager and apt-get update/upgrade

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    DIfferent advice from Update-Manager and apt-get update/upgrade

    Weird thing going on today:

    Update-Manager pops telling me it has 30 updates. Pressing check (to refresh) gives me the same 30. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade tells me I'm up to date: no updates, no held back packages.

    Can anyone confirm this difference between Update-Manager and apt-get?

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    Re: DIfferent advice from Update-Manager and apt-get update/upgrade

    I updated earlier today using synaptic , before your post ,now update-manager (which I NEVER USE ) shows no updates .
    if it ain't broke you haven't tweaked it enough

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    Re: DIfferent advice from Update-Manager and apt-get update/upgrade

    There's something very wrong here.

    $ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade

    Code:
    Fetched 1.581 B in 10s (144 B/s)                                                                                                   
    Reading package lists... Done
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree       
    Reading state information... Done
    0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
    Screenshot at 2011-10-23 13:54:59.png

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    Re: DIfferent advice from Update-Manager and apt-get update/upgrade

    I have seen the same in Oneiric on a friend's pc.. sincerly no idea why this is happening

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    Re: DIfferent advice from Update-Manager and apt-get update/upgrade

    The two are in agreement for me.

    Code:
    coffeecat@amd4-testing:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree       
    Reading state information... Done
    The following packages have been kept back:
      ia32-libs-multiarch:i386
    The following packages will be upgraded:
      binutils firefox firefox-globalmenu firefox-gnome-support firefox-locale-en
      initramfs-tools initramfs-tools-bin libaa1 libatasmart4 libcddb2 libcroco3
      libmpg123-0:i386 liboil0.3 libsmbclient libtheora0 libvpx0 libwbclient0
      libwbclient0:i386 libxp6:i386 libxpm4 polkit-kde-1 python-gobject
      python-gobject-cairo python-pkg-resources samba samba-common
      samba-common-bin smbclient thunderbird thunderbird-globalmenu
      thunderbird-gnome-support wamerican wbritish
    33 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
    Need to get 74.7 MB of archives.
    After this operation, 361 kB disk space will be freed.
    Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
    I did an "apt-get update" less than a minute before and Update Manager is in screenshot.
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    Re: DIfferent advice from Update-Manager and apt-get update/upgrade

    I'm not at home now but I would be interested to see what aptitude safe-upgrade shows.

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    Re: DIfferent advice from Update-Manager and apt-get update/upgrade

    Using aptitude safe-upgrade:

    Code:
    [03:45 ][al:AL-DESK:~]
    $ sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
    The following packages will be upgraded: 
      libpam-smbpass libwbclient0 samba samba-common smbclient winbind 
    The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
      libpam-winbind 
    6 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
    Need to get 28,8 MB of archives. After unpacking 3.475 kB will be freed.
    Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] n
    Abort.
    Screenshot at 2011-10-23 15:47:24.png

    I'll try to debug it further. It makes no sense to post a bug report when other users can't confirm any unusual behavior here.

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    Re: DIfferent advice from Update-Manager and apt-get update/upgrade

    I often see synaptic or apt-get showing MORE updates than update-manager but I have never seen LESS .
    if it ain't broke you haven't tweaked it enough

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    Re: DIfferent advice from Update-Manager and apt-get update/upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by ronacc View Post
    I often see synaptic or apt-get showing MORE updates than update-manager but I have never seen LESS .
    That does worry me. I thought any update tool would report the same. Either there are n updates or there are 0 updates. There can't be a different number of updates suggestions depending on the tool used, right?

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    Re: DIfferent advice from Update-Manager and apt-get update/upgrade

    that is a weird one, just out of curiosity, what does synaptic report, synaptic is only an apt-get front so should be the same but ive come to expect anything from pre-release now
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