Mint's future

[ventrical]

I will be most willing to beta test it because Mint has always been a rock solid mirror of Ubuntu. I do not think Gnome 3 will prevail in this case , but , perhaps Xfce desktop or even Cario. I beta tested Fedora 15. G3 worked great . but it didn't make any sense. It was nice to look at but I never got any work done. If they do use Unity I think it will be safe to bet that they will have ironed out all the bugs first. And yes.. Mint is definitly a distro that is education in helping converts switch to Linux based systems.

[teachop]

Mint is definitly a distro that is education in helping converts switch to Linux based systems.

Yes to that, set it up for somebody and go....

Mint = Mom, tech challenged offspring, etc.

Ubuntu in "classic Gnome" = Co-workers (now will be Xubuntu?)

Arch = Self and pals in embedded development

Gnome Shell and Unity are not a fit for anybody in my immediate "tech support crowd" unfortunately.

[wgarcia]

ventrical, when I say Gnome 3 I mean the infrastructure over which Gnome Shell and Unity, or as a matter of fact Gnome fallback, run. The switch to the new Gnome 3 infrastructure, for the arguments given by other contributions to this debate, seems unavoidable. Also if xfce is used as the desktop interface you need these libraries to run the latest versions of all the Gnome applications.

[BigSilly]

I don't understand the point of sticking with GNOME 2 at all.

GTK3 offers many new benefits and improvements to the toolkit, regardless of what shell you use.

What they should really do is switch to GNOME 3 but use a different shell. That way, users get the benefit of the GTK3 improvements and on-going security updates while also getting the same old interface they know and love. I think that would be the best option to go with.

Do the Linux Mint people really have enough resources to maintain two entire toolkits at once? I doubt it.

Yes I agree. I don't know why they don't take Unity or Gnome shell and just create a Mint version of it. But the problem they are having is the vocal detractors who are demanding Gnome 2 still.

[philinux]

Moved to Cafe.

[Copper Bezel]

mint wants a windows like experience (one panel at the bottom and a big menu) and that's not going to change.

but they dont want kde as default, they want gnome.

it will be interesting to see how they do it.

i dont know, they would probably just use AWN in panel mode or something like that... (which wouldn't actually be that bad)

or maybe in dock mode?

any other ideas?

well i just know the mint12 dev cycle wont be boring

Yeah, AWN with DockBarX and a port of the Mint Menu would be 98% Windows 7. Moreso than KDE's panel is.

[Dry Lips]

[rant]
I was a bit annoyed the other day when I found out that Mint Xfce
now only is available for the Debian edition. I was going to install
Mint for my sister, but I've had a few issues with the Debian edition,
so actually I ended up not installing mint at all.

I want Ubuntu based Mint-Xfce back!

[/rant]

[thatguruguy]

[rant]
I was a bit annoyed the other day when I found out that Mint Xfce
now only is available for the Debian edition. I was going to install
Mint for my sister, but I've had a few issues with the Debian edition,
so actually I ended up not installing mint at all.

I want Ubuntu based Mint-Xfce back!

[/rant]

That's swell. However, I'd suggest that there are probably better places to make this point. Like, I dunno, maybe the Mint forum.

[Dry Lips]

That's swell. However, I'd suggest that there are probably better places to make this point. Like, I dunno, maybe the Mint forum.

Yes, I guess you're right... But I'm not a member of the Mint forums,
and I'm not sure I want to create an account over there just in order
to complain, you know what I mean?

The OP's initial post was about Gnome 2 vs Gnome 3, but I think it's
also interesting to see that they're leaving the Ubuntu based Xfce for
Debian Testing... Does this mean they are eventually leaving Ubuntu
for good?

Now, I guess the Mint Devs probably aren't reading this, but is this
move really a wise decision?

[smellyman]

[rant]
I was a bit annoyed the other day when I found out that Mint Xfce
now only is available for the Debian edition. I was going to install
Mint for my sister, but I've had a few issues with the Debian edition,
so actually I ended up not installing mint at all.

I want Ubuntu based Mint-Xfce back!

[/rant]

Just go Xubuntu. Not like they are much different.