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    I would like to have a Non-Pink/Plymouth-free standard Linux boot.

    I would like to have an actual Linux boot, in which I would be able to joyfully see what is being loaded, errors, etc. Moreover, I never really managed to make this Plymouth thing work, no matter in how many different PCs I try. Dell laptops, HP laptops, Lenovo desktops, Acer, Asus, etc. I seriously doubt this thing has ever worked outside the developer's PC.

    For me it has always been a pink screen with no text, logo, animation, text anything until the DM login shows if you're lucky. In other PCs I see oversized or undersized logos, decentered pink squares with large crop bars on sides, stretched pink rectangles with crops bars on top/bottom, trembling pink distorced logos in static/teared background, etc. Never seen something acceptable.

    - Removing Plymouth via apt-get is basically impossible. Apt will tell you that you will need to uninstall everything, even remove the CPU, PSU, RAM, Cables, HDD, the screws, etc. You end up with an empty metal box and pretend you have a working PC, maybe put some led lights on, etc.

    - There's no Plymouth config file in /etc or /etc/default as one could expect. Don't know how to disable this thing.

    - Removing it from /etc/init.d. The pink thing is still in boot.

    - Changing grub2 conf at /etc/default to use no splash, vga=791, whatever, etc won't work. The pink screen will still be there.

    Maybe it find its way into my BIOS, or it contaminated my Monitor somehow,

    Help?
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    Re: I would like to have a Non-Pink/Plymouth-free standard Linux boot.

    Plymouth works good only with open source video drivers (with KMS feature).
    To disable it, without uninstalling, do this:

    Code:
    sudo mv /etc/init/plymouth.conf /etc/init/plymouth.conf.disabled

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    Re: I would like to have a Non-Pink/Plymouth-free standard Linux boot.

    Code:
    sudo mv /etc/init/plymouth.conf /etc/init/plymouth.conf.disabled
    sudo reboot now
    Pink is gone man, thanks. Problem is that now I have an entirely black screen, still with no "boot text" on it.

    But thank you a lot. Black is already better.

    Regards,
    Effenberg

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    Re: I would like to have a Non-Pink/Plymouth-free standard Linux boot.

    Quote Originally Posted by effenberg0x0 View Post
    Code:
    sudo mv /etc/init/plymouth.conf /etc/init/plymouth.conf.disabled
    sudo reboot now
    Pink is gone man, thanks. Problem is that now I have an entirely black screen, still with no "boot text" on it.

    But thank you a lot. Black is already better.

    Regards,
    Effenberg
    to enable verbose boot text:
    Code:
    gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
    remove "spash" from GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"

    (if you remove also 'quiet' you'll see kernel output)
    save and close gedit

    Code:
    sudo update-grub
    reboot

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    Re: I would like to have a Non-Pink/Plymouth-free standard Linux boot.

    Hi Lucazade,

    I already had remove splash and quiet from /etc/default/grub and ran update-grub with no success (black screen until greeter). I ran into a script, tried and it fixed the problem. Have a look at it at:

    http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/scrip...mouth-for.html

    Regards,
    Effenberg

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    Re: I would like to have a Non-Pink/Plymouth-free standard Linux boot.

    Since some time, it was also not enough to remove splash and quiet for me to see what system have to tell me. I had to add to /etc/default/grub following line:

    Code:
    GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text

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    Re: I would like to have a Non-Pink/Plymouth-free standard Linux boot.

    Quote Originally Posted by effenberg0x0 View Post
    I would like to have an actual Linux boot, in which I would be able to joyfully see what is being loaded, errors, etc. Moreover, I never really managed to make this Plymouth thing work, no matter in how many different PCs I try. Dell laptops, HP laptops, Lenovo desktops, Acer, Asus, etc. I seriously doubt this thing has ever worked outside the developer's PC.

    For me it has always been a pink screen with no text, logo, animation, text anything until the DM login shows if you're lucky. In other PCs I see oversized or undersized logos, decentered pink squares with large crop bars on sides, stretched pink rectangles with crops bars on top/bottom, trembling pink distorced logos in static/teared background, etc. Never seen something acceptable.

    - Removing Plymouth via apt-get is basically impossible. Apt will tell you that you will need to uninstall everything, even remove the CPU, PSU, RAM, Cables, HDD, the screws, etc. You end up with an empty metal box and pretend you have a working PC, maybe put some led lights on, etc.

    - There's no Plymouth config file in /etc or /etc/default as one could expect. Don't know how to disable this thing.

    - Removing it from /etc/init.d. The pink thing is still in boot.

    - Changing grub2 conf at /etc/default to use no splash, vga=791, whatever, etc won't work. The pink screen will still be there.

    Maybe it find its way into my BIOS, or it contaminated my Monitor somehow,

    Help?
    It is the package mountall that prevents the uninstallation of plymouth.
    Mountall depends on both plymouth and libplymouth2.
    See here:
    https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric.../mountall/2.31

    You may find a version of mountall from a PPA where it has been built without plymouth dependency.

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    Re: I would like to have a Non-Pink/Plymouth-free standard Linux boot.

    Quote Originally Posted by lucazade View Post
    Plymouth works good only with open source video drivers (with KMS feature).
    ...
    In my 32-bit (Intel) and 64-bit (AMD) setups both with open source graphics drivers
    the Plymouth does not work during startup, it is not at all visible.
    However, during shutdown I can see the chosen Plymouth theme clearly enough.
    But, I see this also in my 64-bit setup with nvidia-current.

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    Re: I would like to have a Non-Pink/Plymouth-free standard Linux boot.

    really weird Harry33,
    seems I'm lucky because I see plymouth, with correct resolution and theme, with ATI (3 different cards) and with nouveau.
    KMS get correct resolution during kernel startup and pass this to plymouth (sometimes plymouth lasts only for a few seconds anyway!)

    with closed drivers (nvidia-current and intel-emgd w/o KMS) I can see plymouth in low res (probably 1024x768) and I need to tweak grub in order to keep the resolution found automatically via EDID and keep it for all the startup process (vt.handoff=7).
    so I usually add this:
    GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep

    plymouth is far from perfect, obviously.. but with kms drivers my experience is good.
    about mountall dep you are correct, IIRC was necessary for fsck check.

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    Re: I would like to have a Non-Pink/Plymouth-free standard Linux boot.

    Quote Originally Posted by lucazade View Post
    ...
    with closed drivers (nvidia-current and intel-emgd w/o KMS) I can see plymouth in low res (probably 1024x768) and I need to tweak grub in order to keep the resolution found automatically via EDID and keep it for all the startup process (vt.handoff=7).
    so I usually add this:
    GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep
    ...
    Yes I use that line too with my Nvidia card.

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