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    Re: "HDD Regenerator" vs "Disk Utility"

    hey guys
    thanks to ur advise
    I installed Gsmartcontrol and U know it was recommended by my manufacturing HDD site cool
    I did that and run an extended test and my results is as the same as before
    so I am a bit bewildered
    there is a summary of my result:
    Code:
      5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   005    Pre-fail  Always       -       65545
    187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       4294901774
    190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   054   037   045    Old_age   Always   In_the_past 46 (Lifetime Min/Max 33/53)
    196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1
    now, does my hdd have any physical/non-physical bad-sector?
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    Re: "HDD Regenerator" vs "Disk Utility"

    Quote Originally Posted by hyfanious View Post
    hey guys
    thanks to ur advise
    I installed Gsmartcontrol and U know it was recommended by my manufacturing HDD site cool
    I did that and run an extended test and my results is as the same as before
    so I am a bit bewildered
    there is a summary of my result:
    Code:
      5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   005    Pre-fail  Always       -       65545
    187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       4294901774
    190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   054   037   045    Old_age   Always   In_the_past 46 (Lifetime Min/Max 33/53)
    196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1
    now, does my hdd have any physical/non-physical bad-sector?
    Yes, it has 65545 bad sectors (which are always physical errors. a non-physical error of data on the disc would be a filesystem error, not a bad sector). And that's a serious amount of and sectors, so the "pre-fail" warning is definitely something to be worried about.

    If I were you I'd back up all the important data from the drive now, and start looking for a new drive, preferably before the old one fails completely.

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    Red face Re: "HDD Regenerator" vs "Disk Utility"

    wow sounds awful
    but whats ur opinion about this part of information :
    Overall health self-assessment test PASSED

    and what does "pre-fail" mean exactly?
    and what about "Old-age" one?
    (I guessed it means that parameter had once failed before, and maybe no more threat )

    and in my estimation 65000 sector is something about 30mb, is that really as bad as u told?? (just 30 mb in 320 GB )
    Last edited by hyfanious; August 16th, 2011 at 11:46 AM.
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    Re: "HDD Regenerator" vs "Disk Utility"

    So if u are right and my HDD has really about 65000 bad sectors, so HDD Regenerator is definitely nothing but a piece of crap
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    Re: "HDD Regenerator" vs "Disk Utility"

    sorry for being verbose
    but since u mentioned the "pre-fail" is a serious problem can u see whole result and let me know ur opinion?
    tnx in advance
    here is my result:
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    SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
    Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
    ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
      1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x002f   100   100   062    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
      2 Throughput_Performance  0x0025   100   100   040    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0
      3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0023   142   100   033    Pre-fail  Always       -       2
      4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   098   098   000    Old_age   Always       -       3918
      5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   005    Pre-fail  Always       -       65545
      7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x002f   100   100   067    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
      8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0025   100   100   040    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0
      9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   084   084   000    Old_age   Always       -       7168
     10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0033   100   100   060    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
     12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   098   098   000    Old_age   Always       -       3793
    183 Unknown_Attribute       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    184 Unknown_Attribute       0x0033   100   100   097    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
    187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       4294901774
    188 Unknown_Attribute       0x0032   090   070   000    Old_age   Always       -       2686
    190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   053   037   045    Old_age   Always   In_the_past 47 (Lifetime Min/Max 34/50)
    191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x0032   098   098   000    Old_age   Always       -       753
    192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   098   098   000    Old_age   Always       -       26214800
    193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   086   086   000    Old_age   Always       -       141747
    196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1
    197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
    199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0036   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    223 Load_Retry_Count        0x002a   100   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
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    Re: "HDD Regenerator" vs "Disk Utility"

    What brand is this hard drive? I use Seagate Seatools Diagnostics software if I am just looking to test the hard drive by itself. Seatools is available as a free download from Seagate's Web Site. There is a Windows Version and a DOS version. The DOS version is an .iso files that you burn to a CD using an image burning software and then you boot from it and follow the prompts. This will tell you if you have bad blocks not just by looking at the SMART data but by actually doing a sector-by-sector scan. If it says there are bad sectors then you can be sure that the drive is bad. If it finds any bad sectors it is a good idea to at least back up your data and do it regularly if you do not plan on replacing the drive right away. In my experience SMART is always right when it says there is a problem, but not always right when it says the drive is OK!

    To give you some idea, I repair about 100 computers a week. The most common issue is viruses of course, but the second most common issue I see is hard drive failure.

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    Question Re: "HDD Regenerator" vs "Disk Utility"

    Quote Originally Posted by mdshann View Post
    What brand is this hard drive? I use Seagate Seatools Diagnostics software if I am just looking to test the hard drive by itself. Seatools is available as a free download from Seagate's Web Site. There is a Windows Version and a DOS version. The DOS version is an .iso files that you burn to a CD using an image burning software and then you boot from it and follow the prompts. This will tell you if you have bad blocks not just by looking at the SMART data but by actually doing a sector-by-sector scan. If it says there are bad sectors then you can be sure that the drive is bad. If it finds any bad sectors it is a good idea to at least back up your data and do it regularly if you do not plan on replacing the drive right away. In my experience SMART is always right when it says there is a problem, but not always right when it says the drive is OK!

    To give you some idea, I repair about 100 computers a week. The most common issue is viruses of course, but the second most common issue I see is hard drive failure.
    tnx for ur reply
    mine is HITACHI (Hitachi HTS725032A9A364) (320 GB) (7200 rpm)
    I have another info to share
    this HDD is not my original netbook HDD, as a matter of fact it was for my friend's notebook (a hp one) and we exchanged our HDDs, she was not so watchful about her electronics devices (she is a bit active cute girl) and as I remember this amount of bad sectors are shown for a long time , almost 6 months, and I got this HDD about 10 months ago, so I guess these bad sectors maybe caused by my friend, and since these amount of bad sectors remain constantly as quantity, is it possible this HDD works for me for a long time from now?
    if not , in ur estimation what is my confidence interval for expecting probably work of this HDD
    (I had NEVER lost any DATA in this case)
    tnx in advance
    Last edited by hyfanious; August 17th, 2011 at 07:28 AM.
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    Re: "HDD Regenerator" vs "Disk Utility"

    ok guys I am totally puzzled!!!!!
    I tested my hdd by its manufacturing diagnostic program (downloaded from its site) and it takes about 1 hour to do a thorough test and finally report:

    NO PROBLEM


    !!!!!!!!!

    I guess I owe an apologize to HDD Regenerator!!

    Now whats ur advice
    I am totally bewildered, which these results are correct finally???
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    Re: "HDD Regenerator" vs "Disk Utility"

    Quote Originally Posted by mdshann View Post
    What brand is this hard drive? I use Seagate Seatools Diagnostics software if I am just looking to test the hard drive by itself. Seatools is available as a free download from Seagate's Web Site. There is a Windows Version and a DOS version. The DOS version is an .iso files that you burn to a CD using an image burning software and then you boot from it and follow the prompts. This will tell you if you have bad blocks not just by looking at the SMART data but by actually doing a sector-by-sector scan. If it says there are bad sectors then you can be sure that the drive is bad.
    I run an advanced test by Seagate Live CD and it reported "PASSED" as the result
    I guess by running Seagate and Hitachi diagnostic programs and reporting no problem, my hdd should have no bad-sector and so : the dist utility must have a big bug!
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    Question Re: "HDD Regenerator" vs "Disk Utility"

    since it seems that SMART data are junks ones, how can I reset them?
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