Richard Stallman was in Vienna

[NCLI]

You can take a look at Redhat and other similar companies, their revenues are not modest.
So the model works.

Read this.

[koenn]

Read this.

that's rather far-fetched and depends on what definition of proprietary you're going to use.


The point you were making earlier was that

Originally Posted by NCLI

... developers need to be paid to live. Big companies will not throw huge amounts of money at something that can be redistributed without paying, and easily copied and rebranded by another company.

The fact remains that even RedHat's Linux can be easily copied and rebranded by another company. CentOS and Oracle Unbreakable Linux are exactly that.
I'm quite sure RedHat employs developers, and that those people get paid.

There are also a couple of other models besides the RedHat model - companies paying developers to work on Open Source or companies allowing their employees to work on open source on company time (the Apache group members, IBM, Google, ...).



So "open source == starving developers" is simply false.
(most people figured that out 10 years ago)

[bertbiker]

Interesting stuff. I think redhat distributes (mostly) free software since the four essential Stallman freedoms are not violated:
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
Redhat cleverly makes profit from offering support on the licences they sell, but the source code remains free. If we want free software to become a serious threat to the big proprietary OSes such business model is the way to go!

[KiwiNZ]

The Stallman methods have really worked, since the 80's the growth of Linux on the desktop has been meteoric, by 2011 it has reached 1 %.

[KiwiNZ]

Redhat has done well, but it's much vaunted $1Billion worth is insignificant compared to Apples $223+Billion and MSFT's $219Billion worth.

[unknownPoster]

The Stallman methods have really worked, since the 80's the growth of Linux on the desktop has been meteoric, by 2011 it has reached 1 %.

I'm of the belief that people like Stallman do more to hurt the adoption of FOSS rather than help it.

Extremists of any kind do little to benefit their cause.

[lucazade]

The Stallman methods have really worked, since the 80's the growth of Linux on the desktop has been meteoric, by 2011 it has reached 1 %.

I prefer to stick at 1% of market share for other 30 years but to not lose the freedom that Stallman's method assured me to date.

[KiwiNZ]

I'm of the belief that people like Stallman do more to hurt the adoption of FOSS rather than help it.

Extremists of any kind do little to benefit their cause.

I can attest from my professional experience the "Stallman" attitude and actions have stopped Corporate transition plans.

[koenn]

The Stallman methods have really worked, since the 80's the growth of Linux on the desktop has been meteoric, by 2011 it has reached 1 %.

Linux did not exist before 1992.

Stallman is not involved in the propagation of Linux


Sounds like you're trolling, or are very poorly informed

[KiwiNZ]

Linux did not exist before 1992.

Stallman is not involved in the propagation of Linux


Sounds like you're trolling, or are very poorly informed

I was referring to the Stallman method, he has been going at it since around 1983.

Ever heard the saying "don't try and teach your grandparents to suck eggs" ?