Coming soon...Netflix streaming in linux

[Macskeeball]

Well maybe there is more than one way to look at this, that is what has given them the ability to do what they insist on doing in the first place with these business tactics. Key word "insist". Dog and Human analogy = Apples and Oranges. Linux and Window or Mac = equally capable OS's to get this very simple job done. Possibly at no cost even, many people might be willing to do this for free, and probably even free for them!!! We are talking about capable systems here and this is very clear discrimination to a group of users and there choices being prohibited under anti competitive measures. Also I already own a netflix account so I should be able to put my Chevy motor into my Doge after I have made the purchase of my car (PC). If I want to drive my car down the road with chickens pulling it, Ford has no say in the matter. Only if I decided to sell this chicken mobile would they have grounds to prohibit or block me from doing so. Now if the police decided to stop me from driving this possible road hazard vehicle they would have the authority to do so, but not the car manufacturer. This is where it goes to their favor though, because they are leasing the netflix service, not selling it. However, if they are concerned with theft and copyright issues which by the way are really mute and idiotic points of reasoning. Then the laws to deal with that are already on the books and enforced by law officials. Otherwise this would be very similar to a leased car service saying to you that, you can lease this car only if your skin is blue but if you are green, sorry you are considered not acceptable because your skin is green and we have to protect ourselves from theft, and what not. Also I have been informed that the free software foundation has or is looking into possible legal suits against these unethical business tactics already. You see it really makes not much difference with our opinions on this matter as much as it would matter to convince the authorities to see something in a certain way or light. Sometimes, it comes down to just how the judge interprets something of this magnitude. How many years did MS get by with it's anti trust tactics? Not until major anti trust law suits were brought forward did anything get done with those issues!

Paragraphs. Use them.

[Dustin2128]

You mean an outdated form of media storage that is on its way out? Thanks, I'll pass.

You let me know when a game console is considered an outdated form of gaming.

Computers are for work. Fringe users created games for them (right after they made ASCII porn) and companies (rightly so) saw a future in this and created a much simpler version of a computer in order to play games on.

Now, granted the systems blur the line between computer and gaming console in this day and age, but...

If you can show me a computer you can build that will play as many games as an XBOX360 or PS3 that costs less than $500, and has quality parts that will last many years, gives you as much performance in the games, stability, content and quality...you let me know, I'll look into buying one tomorrow.

Cheers,
Ghost|BTFH

Well computers allow for much more graphically exquisite environments than consoles because they're not made with crappy 2005 hardware. I figure you're going to shell 30$ for the case, 50$ for the PSU, 50$ for the motherboard, 50$ for the hard drive, 100$ for the ram, 100$ for the processor, and 100$ for the graphics card assuming you already have a monitor (we're comparing to consoles though). Brings us to 480$, you get a system that can handle stuff 2 generations ahead of current consoles, and you'll be good at least through the PS4 and Xbox 720 if specs currently being discussed are accurate.

[Thewhistlingwind]

Graphics: I still don't care

I quit playing my Xbox because I wasn't having fun anymore. After ten years I'd had enough.

[tgm4883]

Wow you make things hard to read. For your convenience http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paragraph

Well maybe there is more than one way to look at this, that is what has given them the ability to do what they insist on doing in the first place with these business tactics. Key word "insist". Dog and Human analogy = Apples and Oranges.

Why, because you say so?

Linux and Window or Mac = equally capable OS's to get this very simple job done.

We can agree that the three are equally capable.

Possibly at no cost even, many people might be willing to do this for free, and probably even free for them!!!

Well now that isn't true. Only way it can be no cost is if they didn't have to do any additional work to get it working on Linux systems. If that were the case, we could all use User Agent Switcher and watch streaming fine. Since that doesn't work here there must be something else going on.

We are talking about capable systems here and this is very clear discrimination to a group of users and there choices being prohibited under anti competitive measures.

It's not anticompetitive measures. If Netflix released an OS (lets call it NetflixOS)AND Netflix streaming only worked on NetflixOS then it would be anti-competitive. But since

A) Netflix doesn't have an OS
and
B) Netflix already supports many platforms (Android, Windows, Mac, etc)

then this isn't anti-competitive practices.

Also I already own a netflix account so I should be able to put my Chevy motor into my Doge after I have made the purchase of my car (PC).

Now this is really an Apples to Oranges comparison. Again, your analogy doesn't fit. I'm starting to think you don't really understand how computers and operating systems work. Changing engines in a vehicle would be be like changing an operating system in the computer.

If I want to drive my car down the road with chickens pulling it, Ford has no say in the matter. Only if I decided to sell this chicken mobile would they have grounds to prohibit or block me from doing so. Now if the police decided to stop me from driving this possible road hazard vehicle they would have the authority to do so, but not the car manufacturer.

What?!? Have you been drinking?

This is where it goes to their favor though, because they are leasing the netflix service, not selling it. However, if they are concerned with theft and copyright issues which by the way are really mute and idiotic points of reasoning. Then the laws to deal with that are already on the books and enforced by law officials.

Idiotic points of reasoning in your opinion. The content holders disagree, and it's the content holders that make the rules that Netflix has to adhere to.

Otherwise this would be very similar to a leased car service saying to you that, you can lease this car only if your skin is blue but if you are green, sorry you are considered not acceptable because your skin is green and we have to protect ourselves from theft, and what not.

Again, I have NFI what you are talking about. I seriously think you might be drunk.

Also I have been informed that the free software foundation has or is looking into possible legal suits against these unethical business tactics already.

You are either hugely misinformed, or you are a troll. For the reasons I have stated before, there is no grounds for a lawsuit here.

Even if there was grounds for a lawsuit, the FSF wouldn't be pro-netflix on Linux because it would involve DRM. You might want to read up on the FSF stance on DRM before you start making stuff up.

You see it really makes not much difference with our opinions on this matter as much as it would matter to convince the authorities to see something in a certain way or light. Sometimes, it comes down to just how the judge interprets something of this magnitude.

There would be no wiggle room here. There is no grounds for a lawsuit. I doubt this would make it to civil court.

How many years did MS get by with it's anti trust tactics? Not until major anti trust law suits were brought forward did anything get done with those issues!

MS got in trouble for it because they were using their virtual monopoly to enter other markets and drive out competition by bundling software with Windows (most notably Internet Explorer) and by making backroom deals to stifle competition (see Java).

In comparison, Netflix is no where near a virtual monopoly (see Amazon VOD, Walmart VUDU), and stands nothing to gain by not supporting Linux (although it would cost them at least a little bit to either A) switch to a non-silverlight option or B) create a netflix application for Linux to allow streaming).

One more thing, it isn't Netflix that isn't supporting Linux (well sure they don't support Linux, but in a way they don't support Windows or Mac either). They support Silverlight. And the Linux equivalent of Silverlight (Moonlight) doesn't support the DRM requirements to stream the video.

In conclusion, please do a little more research on the facts you wish to bring up. There is no grounds for a lawsuit against Netflix from anyone on this matter. Netflix has in no way wronged you.

[Sef]

Locked. This thread has gotten off-topic.