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    Common Problems / Frequently Asked Questions About Testing

    Here are answers to some commonly asked questions and solutions to common problems when testing pre-release Ubuntu versions. It will be updated during the testing period as necessary, so you may want to check back. Feel free to post suggestions for things that you think should be included (I won't promise to include them all, since making the document unnecessarily long typically discourages people from reading).

    • How can I upgrade to Oneiric?

      There's basically no point in upgrading to Natty at this point. It exists as a release in the archive, but isn't open for development, the Debian auto-sync hasn't started, and you can't really do anything useful. Unless you're a toolchain hacker or have special interest in a particular Debian sync issue, it's going to stay this way until after UDS.

      That said, if you just want to feel like an early adopter, you can upgrade by replacing all instances of "natty" in your /etc/apt/sources.list with "oneiric", and issuing
      Code:
      sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
      Other methods such as using Update Manager will not be working until around Alpha 1. Be advised that "apt-get dist-upgrade"ing isn't a supported upgrade method for regular upgrades; it's only used in the early stages of a development cycle since it's the only way to upgrade during those periods.

    • I already have a testing installation. Do I have to reinstall the latest alpha / beta / RC when it comes out?

      If you have the latest updates installed on your testing installation, you don't have to remove your current testing installation and install the alpha / beta / RC, unless you want to test installation-specific components (the installer, bootloader etc.), or your installation is affected by potential corner cases that may arise during the development cycle that require a reinstall to fix.

      The milestone releases (alphas, betas and the RC) are slightly stabilized snapshots of the package archive at pre-decided dates, so they reflect the latest state of Natty on those dates. If you're up to date, you already have the latest packages. If you have to reinstall, and have an old disc image, you may want to use zsync to avoid having to download the whole image.

    • If I install the alpha / beta / RC now, do I need to reinstall the final version when it's released?

      You don't have to (Update Manager will let you upgrade to the final version), but you may want to, if one or more of the below apply:

      • You have tweaked your testing installation to a point where you're not aware of its exact components and configuration

      • You have replaced essential components of your installation with versions from external repositories / PPAs

      • You have used package installation scripts or similar tools which are not trusted by the Ubuntu development community

      • You have applied hacks / workarounds for testing purposes for good reason (prompted during structured testing, bug triage etc.), which may cause problems during daily usage of a stable installation

      • You're affected by potential corner cases that may require a reinstall to fix (which will be documented in the release notes)


    • Update Manager offers a "Partial Upgrade". What should I do?

      Read this.

    • When / at what time will the alpha / beta / RC be released?

      Take a look at the release schedule There's no specific time of the day for releases; just wait for the official release announcement, which will be mirrored immediately in the forum with a sticky thread as well.

    • I'm trying to report a bug, but I'm redirected to this page. What's going on?

      That's intentional; you'll understand what's going on once you read that page

    • I'm trying to report a bug, but I don't know which package it belongs to. What should I do?

      Take a look at the Bugs/FindRightPackage page on the wiki, and try invoking Apport's (currently rather primitive) symptom-based reporting mode by issuing
      Code:
      ubuntu-bug
      with no arguments. If those don't help, feel free to start a thread, or join the #ubuntu-bugs channel on the Freenode IRC network to ask for assistance.

    • My testing installation is badly broken. Is there a way to roll back to the stable release, or a relatively stable point in the development branch?

      No. You'll have to fix your installation or do a fresh install.

    • I haven't been getting updates for a while. Is it that there's nothing new in Natty, or is there a problem with the servers?

      The archive mirror you're using is probably lagging behind. You can see the status of the mirrors at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors. Also note that there will be relatively few updates during the freeze periods leading to alpha, beta and RC releases.

    • I downloaded the daily CD image, but it's oversized and I can't burn it on a CD.

      The daily images get built automatically, and due to the rapid and asynchronous nature of uploads to the development branch, no effort can be made to make them fit on a CD on a daily basis; such an effort is only made for the milestones. Note that you can still use oversized CD images for testing in a virtual machine.

    • Is testing Oneiric in a virtual machine useful?

      For testing kernels, X, and anything that interacts directly or at a low level with hardware, it's hard to produce useful bug reports. If filing bug reports from virtual machine installs, don't forget that they will be reports about Ubuntu failing to work on that particular virtual machine, and don't forget to indicate that you're testing on a virtual machine in your bug report. While virtual machines are a valid use case, bugs from real hardware are much more useful. If, however, you're only looking to test high-level functionality such as userspace applications, user interfaces, documentation, translations and so on, virtual machines are mostly fine.
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    Updates Today?

    Hi, i'm not sure my oneiric is ok.Today have this updates, is correct?
    (sorry for my english

    Se instalarán los siguientes paquetes NUEVOS:
    gnome-desktop3-data libappindicator3-1 libavahi-ui-gtk3-0 libcanberra-gtk3-0
    libcanberra-gtk3-module libdbusmenu-gtk3-3 libgail-3-0 libgnome-desktop-3-0
    libgnome-media-profiles-3.0-0 libgnomekbd7 libindicator3-3 libntfs-3g80
    libunique-3.0-0 libvte-2.90-9
    Se actualizarán los siguientes paquetes:
    apport apport-gtk avahi-autoipd avahi-daemon avahi-utils baobab bsdmainutils
    checkbox checkbox-gtk firefox firefox-globalmenu firefox-gnome-support
    gconf-defaults-service gconf2 gconf2-common gir1.2-freedesktop
    gir1.2-gconf-2.0 gir1.2-glib-2.0 gir1.2-gtk-3.0 gnome-disk-utility
    gnome-media gnome-nettool gnome-screenshot gnome-search-tool
    gnome-settings-daemon gnome-system-log gnome-terminal gnome-terminal-data
    gnome-utils-common gstreamer0.10-alsa gstreamer0.10-plugins-base
    gstreamer0.10-plugins-base-apps gstreamer0.10-tools gstreamer0.10-x
    icedtea-6-jre-cacao icedtea-6-jre-jamvm inputattach libasound2
    libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-common3 libavahi-core7
    libavahi-glib1 libavahi-gobject0 libavahi-ui0 libexif12 libgconf2-4
    libgdu-gtk0 libgdu0 libgirepository-1.0-1 libgladeui-1-11 libgnomekbd-common
    libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 libgstreamer0.10-0 libgtk-3-0 libgtk-3-bin
    libgtk-3-common libgweather-common libldap-2.4-2 libnautilus-extension1
    libnm-glib-vpn1 libnm-glib2 libnm-util1 libnss3 libnss3-1d libopencc1
    libpixman-1-0 libpng12-0 libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-calc
    libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-emailmerge
    libreoffice-gnome libreoffice-gtk libreoffice-help-en-us libreoffice-impress
    libreoffice-math libreoffice-style-human libreoffice-writer libsmbclient
    libwbclient0 libxklavier16 nautilus nautilus-data network-manager ntfs-3g
    nvidia-common openjdk-6-jre openjdk-6-jre-headless openjdk-6-jre-lib
    python-apport python-cupshelpers python-problem-report
    python-ubuntuone-control-panel python-uno python-wsgi-intercept rdesktop
    samba-common samba-common-bin smbclient software-center
    system-config-printer-common system-config-printer-gnome
    system-config-printer-udev ttf-opensymbol ubuntuone-control-panel
    ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk uno-libs3 ure wget xserver-common
    xserver-xorg-core
    Last edited by novatillasku; May 18th, 2011 at 09:44 AM.

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    Re: Updates Today?

    Quote Originally Posted by novatillasku View Post
    Hi, i'm not sure my oneiric is ok.Today have this updates, is correct?
    (sorry for my english

    Se instalarán los siguientes paquetes NUEVOS:
    gnome-desktop3-data libappindicator3-1 libavahi-ui-gtk3-0 libcanberra-gtk3-0
    libcanberra-gtk3-module libdbusmenu-gtk3-3 libgail-3-0 libgnome-desktop-3-0
    libgnome-media-profiles-3.0-0 libgnomekbd7 libindicator3-3 libntfs-3g80
    libunique-3.0-0 libvte-2.90-9
    Se actualizarán los siguientes paquetes:
    apport apport-gtk avahi-autoipd avahi-daemon avahi-utils baobab bsdmainutils
    checkbox checkbox-gtk firefox firefox-globalmenu firefox-gnome-support
    gconf-defaults-service gconf2 gconf2-common gir1.2-freedesktop
    gir1.2-gconf-2.0 gir1.2-glib-2.0 gir1.2-gtk-3.0 gnome-disk-utility
    gnome-media gnome-nettool gnome-screenshot gnome-search-tool
    gnome-settings-daemon gnome-system-log gnome-terminal gnome-terminal-data
    gnome-utils-common gstreamer0.10-alsa gstreamer0.10-plugins-base
    gstreamer0.10-plugins-base-apps gstreamer0.10-tools gstreamer0.10-x
    icedtea-6-jre-cacao icedtea-6-jre-jamvm inputattach libasound2
    libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-common3 libavahi-core7
    libavahi-glib1 libavahi-gobject0 libavahi-ui0 libexif12 libgconf2-4
    libgdu-gtk0 libgdu0 libgirepository-1.0-1 libgladeui-1-11 libgnomekbd-common
    libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 libgstreamer0.10-0 libgtk-3-0 libgtk-3-bin
    libgtk-3-common libgweather-common libldap-2.4-2 libnautilus-extension1
    libnm-glib-vpn1 libnm-glib2 libnm-util1 libnss3 libnss3-1d libopencc1
    libpixman-1-0 libpng12-0 libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-calc
    libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-emailmerge
    libreoffice-gnome libreoffice-gtk libreoffice-help-en-us libreoffice-impress
    libreoffice-math libreoffice-style-human libreoffice-writer libsmbclient
    libwbclient0 libxklavier16 nautilus nautilus-data network-manager ntfs-3g
    nvidia-common openjdk-6-jre openjdk-6-jre-headless openjdk-6-jre-lib
    python-apport python-cupshelpers python-problem-report
    python-ubuntuone-control-panel python-uno python-wsgi-intercept rdesktop
    samba-common samba-common-bin smbclient software-center
    system-config-printer-common system-config-printer-gnome
    system-config-printer-udev ttf-opensymbol ubuntuone-control-panel
    ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk uno-libs3 ure wget xserver-common
    xserver-xorg-core
    That is correct, the GTK+3 porting has begun.
    After those updates, your desktop will not be the same again.

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    Re: Common Problems / Frequently Asked Questions About Testing

    Desktop ?
    Even my chair is getting shaky

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    Re: Common Problems / Frequently Asked Questions About Testing

    Quote Originally Posted by cecilpierce View Post
    Desktop ?
    Even my chair is getting shaky
    Well that might be better estimation.

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    Re: Common Problems / Frequently Asked Questions About Testing

    Quote Originally Posted by 23meg View Post

    • How can I upgrade to Oneiric?

      There's basically no point in upgrading to Oneiric at this point. It exists as a release in the archive, but isn't open for development, the Debian auto-sync hasn't started, and you can't really do anything useful. Unless you're a toolchain hacker or have special interest in a particular Debian sync issue, it's going to stay this way until after UDS.

      That said, if you just want to feel like an early adopter, you can upgrade by replacing all instances of "natty" in your /etc/apt/sources.list with "oneiric", and issuing
      Code:
      sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
      Other methods such as using Update Manager will not be working until around Alpha 1. Be advised that "apt-get dist-upgrade"ing isn't a supported upgrade method for regular upgrades; it's only used in the early stages of a development cycle since it's the only way to upgrade during those periods.
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    Re: Common Problems / Frequently Asked Questions About Testing

    Quote Originally Posted by 23meg View Post
    That said, if you just want to feel like an early adopter, you can upgrade by replacing all instances of "maverick" in your /etc/apt/sources.list with "oneiric", and issuing
    Code:
    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
    *Cringe*

    Personally I always prefer to do the normal upgrade first
    Code:
    sudo apt-get upgrade
    Or in Synaptic use the 'Mark All Upgrades' button if 'Settings --> preferences --> general --> system upgrade:' is set to 'Default Upgrade' which is the equivalent of 'apt-get upgrade'.

    You could try setting the 'System Upgrade:' in Synaptic to 'Smart Upgrade' which is equivalent to 'apt-get dist-upgrade', but I prefer to using apt-get at the command line for that, then if the list of things that would be removed seems excessive or whacked in some other way, revert back to Synaptic.

    If I didn't like what dist-upgrade would do, then I select individual packages installing small groups of packages, always monitoring what will be removed and what packages of a related group (samba, perl, etc...) can't be upgraded and canceling if there is some question about what would be removed or if installing some part of a related set of packages and not other parts might leave things partially working or not working.

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    Re: Common Problems / Frequently Asked Questions About Testing

    I was a bit short of time when I posted this, I did a search and replace for natty, but didn't even think of doing it for Maverick.

    Edit: FIxed

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    Re: Common Problems / Frequently Asked Questions About Testing

    ok well, running xubuntu 11.10a1 in virtualbox and so far everything works except the users and groups module won't launch. I looked at the .desktop file and is no mention of xfce. do I need to change it?

    thanks.

    I also tried to add myself to the group vboxsf in the terminal using "useradd -G vboxsf louis" but it just tells me I'm already a user.
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    Re: Common Problems / Frequently Asked Questions About Testing

    Quote Originally Posted by 23meg View Post
    When / at what time will the alpha / beta / RC be released?

    Take a look at the release schedule There's no specific time of the day for releases; just wait for the official release announcement, which will be mirrored immediately in the forum with a sticky thread as well.
    I was so tempted to ask this regarding the beta... I've been so impatient and have kept checking back since the clock turned 12 midnight!!

    Will the official announcement be made on ubuntu.com? I'll keep checking back in this forum till then.

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