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    What kind of hardware should I be looking at to scale to ~20k users continually?

    Let's say I'm running Apache Wave on Ubuntu Server 10.04 x86-64, and I'll have approximately 20000 active users from August to January (with many more after that time).

    The network this will be hosted on is pretty decent (25/25 Mbps) and the infrastructure is good (there hasn't been a power outage in years).

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    Does $5000 seem like a reasonable amount to expect to drop on the hardware, or should I look at a larger or smaller amount?

    Also, how should I treat the tradeoff between raw specs and server-grade hardware (given a limited budget)?

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    For hard drive space, I'm planning around 10 to 15 TB in software RAID 10.
    ~$1300

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    As far as power, I'm thinking two PSUs (beyond wattage, is there anything specific I should look for?) and a $100 or $200 UPS for good measure.
    ~$300?

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    What I'm less sure about is the CPU/RAM/mobo I should be looking at to scale like this.

    One possible approach would be to arbitrarily pick something like two 12-core Opterons and 96 GB RAM then decide that sounds good,
    or I could allocate a certain amount of money toward this then just max out the specs within that bound,
    but I'd like to be reasonably scientific in my approach.

    So, what kind of CPU/RAM/mobo setup would you recommend and why?

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    Also, clustering. If not for the initial system, is clustering something I should look into later (e.g. when I need to upgrade / scale up the system), or are there better ways of accomplishing that.

    Clustering is something I really have no experience doing, so any advice on that would be appreciated.
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    Re: What kind of hardware should I be looking at to scale to ~20k users continually?

    Quote Originally Posted by buu700 View Post
    Let's say I'm running Apache Wave on Ubuntu Server 10.04 x86-64, and I'll have approximately 20000 active users from August to January (with many more after that time).

    The network this will be hosted on is pretty decent (25/25 Mbps) and the infrastructure is good (there hasn't been a power outage in years).

    ---

    Does $5000 seem like a reasonable amount to expect to drop on the hardware, or should I look at a larger or smaller amount?

    Also, how should I treat the tradeoff between raw specs and server-grade hardware (given a limited budget)?

    ---

    For hard drive space, I'm planning around 10 to 15 TB in software RAID 10.
    ~$1300

    ---

    As far as power, I'm thinking two PSUs (beyond wattage, is there anything specific I should look for?) and a $100 or $200 UPS for good measure.
    ~$300?

    ---

    What I'm less sure about is the CPU/RAM/mobo I should be looking at to scale like this.

    One possible approach would be to arbitrarily pick something like two 12-core Opterons and 96 GB RAM then decide that sounds good,
    or I could allocate a certain amount of money toward this then just max out the specs within that bound,
    but I'd like to be reasonably scientific in my approach.

    So, what kind of CPU/RAM/mobo setup would you recommend and why?

    ---

    Also, clustering. If not for the initial system, is clustering something I should look into later (e.g. when I need to upgrade / scale up the system), or are there better ways of accomplishing that.

    Clustering is something I really have no experience doing, so any advice on that would be appreciated.
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    Re: What kind of hardware should I be looking at to scale to ~20k users continually?

    4 of these:
    AMD Opteron 6174 Magny-Cours 2.2GHz 12 x 512KB L2 Cache 12MB L3 Cache Socket G34 115W 12-Core Server Processor
    on this:
    TYAN S8812WGM3NR Quad Socket G34 AMD SR5690 MEB Quad AMD 8-Core/12-Core Opteron 6100 Series Processors (Magny-Cours) Server Motherboard

    that should do it...

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