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    Android and Linux

    Right, have not been following Android as much as I would have liked but it appears to be a steadfast on cheap tablets now, is popular on mobile phones, and I am sure I saw a netbook with it on. Couple of Q's.

    Is Android the 'next OS' on the market?

    Is it installable / viable to use on PC's at all? - If yes, has anyone ever made an ISO of it installable onto PC's?

    How far is the code from Linux? - Expanding that one : Is it close enough to have easily ported apps or is it far detached like OSX and Linux?

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    Re: Android and Linux

    Android seems to be doing really well and I would say it is the 'Next OS'.

    I have seen it on a few netbooks, however I am not sure if there is an ISO out there for it to download and I am not sure it would make a good Desktop OS. Great on Phones though Love my Liquid E.

    Android uses the Dalvik Virtual machine for all its applications (as I understand it). So I don't think the android stuff would work out of the box in Linux.
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    My understanding is that its the linux kernel but it doesn't have the same sort of tools that linux desktop systems uses, so porting is not easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weasel fierce View Post
    My understanding is that its the linux kernel but it doesn't have the same sort of tools that linux desktop systems uses, so porting is not easy.
    This is correct. Everything runs in a custom virtual machine. There are emulators, though, so it's possible to port android apps to Linux (or OSX or Windows, for that matter, because here we're talking about Linux as an OS atop the Linux kernel), but it's not necessarily a worthwhile translation. Porting a Linux program to Android, on the other hand, would be a tall order!

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    It doesn't use X, it has most GNU tools but it has to be hacked in order for you to have root. There are however many Open Source and GPLed apps and thousands that are free as in beer and ad supported.

    Its market share on mobiles has quadrapolled and has much more than RIM or Apple's iOS,it's being put on tablets but only Android 3 will be made to also run on them sometime next year.

    It's going to be ubiquitous.

    Ubuntu will be destroyed by aiming for tablets/netbooks and the Unity nonsense and thus basically crippling its use on desktops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anzan View Post
    It doesn't use X, it has most GNU tools but it has to be hacked in order for you to have root. There are however many Open Source and GPLed apps and thousands that are free as in beer and ad supported.

    Its market share on mobiles has quadrapolled and has much more than RIM or Apple's iOS,it's being put on tablets but only Android 3 will be made to also run on them sometime next year.

    It's going to be ubiquitous.

    Ubuntu will be destroyed by aiming for tablets/netbooks and the Unity nonsense and thus basically crippling its use on desktops.
    I have a great idea! Can we have one more thread about unity?
    Nobody has ever brought that up before!

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    Interesting, I have been wondering what the next OS would be. I was thinking it might have been chromium (/chrome / google OS / whatever, I dont know its name but you know what I am talking about). Would be nice to see a less pure cloud OS be popular for a bit longer. Thank you all.

    I see it was released under a free software license back in 2008. I wonder if it could end up like the Linux we know with 800 different spins of it. Going to deffo have to pay more attention to Android.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naiki Muliaina View Post
    Interesting, I have been wondering what the next OS would be. I was thinking it might have been chromium (/chrome / google OS / whatever, I dont know its name but you know what I am talking about). Would be nice to see a less pure cloud OS be popular for a bit longer. Thank you all.

    I see it was released under a free software license back in 2008. I wonder if it could end up like the Linux we know with 800 different spins of it. Going to deffo have to pay more attention to Android.
    Well, you could see the custom roms as distro's, there is not much difference between the delivered android and the roms (if you stay with the same version), it's just like going from Ubuntu to Mint: different interface and some bug fixes but still the same.

    The major difference between PCs and phones is that phones are locked, people have to find a hack to put a custom rom on it. So the landscape is not that scattered. Each phone also has some particular bugs, like with the graphical cards in the Linux world. So using a ROM made for one phone on another might not work.

    As an example: the roms for the HTC click: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=544

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanderd17 View Post
    Well, you could see the custom roms as distro's, there is not much difference between the delivered android and the roms (if you stay with the same version), it's just like going from Ubuntu to Mint: different interface and some bug fixes but still the same.

    The major difference between PCs and phones is that phones are locked, people have to find a hack to put a custom rom on it. So the landscape is not that scattered. Each phone also has some particular bugs, like with the graphical cards in the Linux world. So using a ROM made for one phone on another might not work.

    As an example: the roms for the HTC click: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=544
    ROM's are completely device specific.
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    Re: Android and Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by weasel fierce View Post
    I have a great idea! Can we have one more thread about unity?
    Nobody has ever brought that up before!
    unity rocks!! <I hope i dont get infraction for using word unity>
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