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    Question Dial-up not supported

    I set up Ubuntu 10.10 on my friend's computer because he wants a free operating system. My friend and I are very impressed with Ubuntu and its many features, unfortunately we discovered that Ubuntu doesn't support dial-up modems. There was the suggestion that a "Debian" driver would provide a solution. My friend isn't computer literate and I've only intermediate knowledge. We would be very grateful if someone here who's smart can give us simple, easy to understand and follow directions on how to install a driver to enable his dial-up modem. Also, if someone could suggest a good, affordable ISP that supports Linux (Ubuntu) it would be greatly appreciated also. Thank you for any help you can provide. It would be a blessing.

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    Re: Dial-up not supported

    7beauties,
    The guide Rex pointed you to is good, but assumes too much for the typical
    person to get started.

    The first question is do you have a WinModem, or an External Serial USR
    Hardware Modem (or USB Hardware Modem)? You can find some USR External
    Serial Hardware Modems on www.ebay.com that are reasonable.

    If so, you need to go to the http://www.linmodems.org/ site,
    then download the ScanModem.tool and execute that script to get the
    information on the modem. Then subscribe to the Linmodems discussion list.
    Send Marvin an email (in plain text..ONLY) to the discussion list.
    He will analyze your results and get back to you on what to do to get
    the correct drivers to get the Modem working.

    You can also search the archives posted there for your model and read
    those messages about how others have tried to get theirs working.
    Use EDIT then FIND for your model and search each month for responses
    to keep from pouring over each months' ton of postings.

    Once that is done you're 80% done.........or you can use an External USR
    Hardware Modem with your serial port or USB to serial Adapter and forget
    the extra multiple days' hassel of the Winmodem..........

    If you don't have a serial port, or want to use a USB port check out
    the following:

    The USB to Serial Converter is from www.newegg.com and is a
    N82E16812156008 SABRENT 1 ft. USB to Serial db9 Male RS-232 (9-pin)
    Converter Model SBT-USC1M - Retail @ $10.99.

    These work wonderful with wvdial, etc.

    DIALUP ISP's supporting Linux:
    I use Copper.net, but you can search the Forum to find an ISP that
    supports Linux. Copper.net is Nationwide in the USA, with access numbers
    in just about every town.

    Once that decision is made, you will need to set up the pap-secrets and/or
    chap-secrets file by running the following in a Terminal Window:
    Code:
    sudo pppconfig
    You will need your userlogin, password, ISP provider information, and
    pap or chap information for the connection. (You can set up pap and
    then chap, if pap doesn't work.) Basically you just answer the questions
    that are presented. You can delete a configurations and start over if
    you need to from the menu selections.

    For more information try:
    Code:
    man pppd
    man pppconfig
    pap-secrets file contains:
    (NOTE: File Format has changed for versions later than 8.04)
    Code:
    # OUTBOUND connections
    
    # Here you should add your userid password to connect to your providers via
    # PAP. The * means that the password is to be used for ANY host you connect
    # to. Thus you do not have to worry about the foreign machine name. Just
    # replace password with your password.
    # If you have different providers with different passwords then you better
    # remove the following line.
    
    #	*	password
    "yourusername@yourisp.net" provider "yourpassword"
    Now that ppp is setup, why don't you install wvdial and it's dependencies and
    see if wvdial detects the modem. You might find it works......

    You need to download wvdial and the following dependencies for 10.04,
    or whatever version you have installed......
    Code:
    wvdial & dependencies:
    libuniconf4.6
    libwvstreams4.6-extras
    libwvstreams4.6-base
    Located at:
    http://packages.ubuntu.com/
    Select 10.04 -> Communications Programs -> wvdial 1.60.3
    Download these with XP or Ubuntu, then copy the *.deb files to USB Flash Drive,
    & then to Ubuntu subdirectory /var/cache/apt/archives & then install using Synaptic Package Manager.....ie.
    Code:
    sudo cp ~/Downloads/mydebs/*.deb /var/cache/apt/archives
    OR you can go to SYSTEM -> ADMINISTRATION -> SOFTWARE SOURCES
    and check the box for installable from CDROM/DVD.........then
    insert your LiveCD and install from the CDR.

    Power up the modem, and connect it to your serial port.
    In a Terminal window do:
    Code:
    sudo wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf
    You should get a configuration file like this at
    /etc/wvdial.conf (you may need to add a few things...)

    wvdial.conf contains:
    Code:
    [Dialer Defaults]
    Auto DNS = yes
    Init1 = ATZ
    Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
    Modem Type = USB Modem
    Baud = 48800
    New PPPD = yes
    Stupid mode = yes
    ;carrier check = no
    Modem = /dev/ttyACM0
    ISDN = 0
    Phone = 4460568
    Password = yourpassword
    Username = yourusername@yourisp.net
    Now assuming that your pap-secrets and or your chap-secrets file is
    correct you should be able to use wvdial to dial the connection with:
    Code:
    wvdial /etc/wvdial.conf
    You should hear the modem go OFFHOOK with dialtone, Dial, and connect.
    REMEMBER after wvdial dials, you can pick up a handset and monitor the
    activity by listening to what is going on with the communications.
    If your config file is correct you should authenticate and then control
    will be passed to ppp. You will see several strings of HEX (funny characters)
    and then you should stay connected. (you will use CNTL C to
    terminate the session when you are done, but for this session you MUST
    leave the Terminal window OPEN...) You may have to uncheck the box
    marked OFFLINE when you open your browser to make it online. Surf,
    then terminate the open session with CNTL C in the open terminal window
    where you initiated wvdial.

    wvdial.conf info:
    http://linux.die.net/man/5/wvdial.conf

    PPP HOWTO:
    http://tldp.org/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO/index.html

    PAP-SECRETS info:
    http://tldp.org/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO/x1034.html

    CHAP-SECRETS info:
    http://tldp.org/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO/x1053.html

    Setting up PPP Manually
    http://tldp.org/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO/manual.html


    Finally, when wvdial is working you can configure/set up Gnome-PPP.

    When you get everything working, I'd suggest backing up the pap-secrets,
    chap-secrets, and wvdial.conf files....just in case.
    You can use:
    Code:
    cd /
    cd /etc/ppp
    sudo cp pap-secrets pap-secrets.sav
    sudo cp chap-secrets chap-secrets.sav
    cd ..
    cp wvdial.conf wvdial.sav
    to save the backup files.

    Let us know how it goes.....You should be up and running in less than 45 minutes.....

    lk
    Last edited by lkraemer; December 2nd, 2010 at 12:37 AM.

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    Re: Dial-up not supported

    Thank you Rex and IKraemer. I appreciate your reaching out to help me. I'm virtually a newbie and am determined to help my friend get online. We're both amazed and delighted with the features of Ubuntu 10.10 and feel that it's a great alternative to Windows which costs a lot of money. I love the philosophy of Ubuntu in that an operating system should be free. My friend's modem is an internal PCI modem. I shall investigate the external USB modem from Newegg.com. It's very reasonably priced and I hope that it would work with Ubuntu. If I were to purchase this external dialup modem from Newegg.com would it work? Is there an equivalent of Plug and Play with Ubuntu? I don't know anything about ports and POP3 and IMAP and so forth.

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    Re: Dial-up not supported

    Quote Originally Posted by 7beauties
    ...
    If I were to purchase this external dialup modem from Newegg.com would it work? Is there an equivalent of Plug and Play with Ubuntu?
    ...
    Because Ubuntu has to fit on a single install CD, the developers have to choose what to include. Since in 2010, very few users still use or need a dialup connection for Internet, it isn't supported "out of the box" to use a common phrase.

    However, you can be successful following lkraemer's step-by-step, I've see it happen several times in the forum.

    By the way, and this probably won't matter much to you, I use dialup connection with a "hardware" modem, works fine but seems very slow compared to broadband of any kind, your friend might want to not allow their browser to show pictures or flash objects.

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    Re: Dial-up not supported

    The best choice is a US Robotics External Serial Hardware Modem
    such as www.ebay.com item #200549696974

    You might want to take a chance on the PCI Modem already installed, and see
    if wvdial detects it. Chances are it won't be found. Then you could get
    the Script from Marvin and the fine folks at www.linmodems.org
    and see what drivers are needed. Marvin and those folks are a lot of help.

    I've heard that the USB US Robotics Modem works also, but I haven't tried
    one of those.

    lk

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    Re: Dial-up not supported

    [QUOTE=********* I shall investigate the external USB modem from Newegg.com. It's very reasonably priced and I hope that it would work with Ubuntu. If I were to purchase this external dialup modem from Newegg.com would it work? Is there an equivalent of Plug and Play with Ubuntu? I don't know anything about ports and POP3 and IMAP and so forth.[/QUOTE]

    -- you can look on Neweggs user reviews and use the keyword Ubuntu , they will say if it works with Ubuntu, I have found serial modems are best ..

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    Re: Dial-up not supported

    Please keep the discussion to support related answers. Thank you.

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    Re: Dial-up not supported

    How is your progress going? Is it working?

    We would Greatly Appreciate a Follow-Up Post!

    lk

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    Re: Dial-up not supported

    Thank you everyone for your help, especially from IKraemer. I've been working but now that I'm off I'll look for an external dialup modem for my friend. I'll check the list of modems supported by Ubuntu and let everyone know what happens. Thank you again for all your support.

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