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Thread: Samsung QX410 issues (touchpad, nvidia, brightness/volume)

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    Samsung QX410 issues (touchpad, nvidia, brightness/volume)

    I've just put ubuntu on my new qx410. There are a few issues I've encountered, which I've found to happen to everyone with ubuntu on a qx410.

    The main issue, at least for me, is the touchpad. It's recognized as a "PS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse". There is no touchpad tab under system>preferences>mouse, and so I can't configure side scrolling, disabling it while I type, or anything useful like that. I think this is because there's no driver for it yet...? Very very annoying.

    Second issue is the graphics. Jockey offers me the nvidia driver, which installs just fine but prevents the computer from booting properly (I just end up with tty1, where I disable the driver and reboot). This issue doesn't bother me at all, but it's still an issue.

    Third, most minor issue is that of the volume and brightness keys. If you do fn-up or fn-down it'll change the brightness, fn-left and fn-right for volume. It works, I guess, but it fails to recognize when you stop pressing the key, and glitches out your keyboard, pretty much preventing you from doing anything until you reboot. I just solved this by setting some volume and brightness hotkeys and avoiding that particular key combo. No problem.

    I understand that the QX line has only been available for a month or so, so it'll probably take a while for support to be out there. However, if anybody's got any sort of solution, particularly for the touchpad issue, I'm open.

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    Re: Samsung QX410 issues (touchpad, nvidia, brightness/volume)

    Hey devT,


    So, what does the solution exactly do? does it disable the video card and then restart the computer? or does it disable the drivers and then restart? Should people not update the drivers to begin with in linux? It keeps prompting to update- whats your advicve? should people just hassle with this command when it drops us down to (tty?)

    Also, would you like me to repost your solution for others to see?

    Any other issues with the Samsung QX410 laptop that you know of or have solved?

    Thanks so much in advance,


    zero

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    Re: Samsung QX410 issues (touchpad, nvidia, brightness/volume)

    My solution just disables the driver and reboots. I read somewhere that the graphics card switching isn't yet supported on ubuntu, so I didn't push it much. I did find a script somewhere that was able to power off the dedicated graphics card, but that's it. It actually increased the battery life a lot.

    The update renders the system unable to boot into a graphical interface, so there's no point in installing it.

    If you find yourself unable to boot into a graphical interface because you installed the nvidia driver, here's what you can do:

    Code:
    sudo jockey-text -d xorg:nvidia_current
    sudo shutdown -r now
    That'll disable the driver and reboot.

    I'm afraid I haven't found any kind of solution yet. I'll keep looking.

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    Re: Samsung QX410 issues (touchpad, nvidia, brightness/volume)

    Yeah, that should work for now...

    This is the time where I wish I knew coding and knew how to write drivers, as in this is something I'd spend quite some time figuring out. I'm wondering why nVidia wont support this? I found online that they've said they wont support Optimus technology in linux? I'll keep digging for other solutions..

    I'll keep this thread alive for other people as well. I love that laptop, but I'm sad that it can't trigger the 3d capabilities in Linux, since I installed it to learn and fully test.

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    Re: Samsung QX410 issues (touchpad, nvidia, brightness/volume)

    I just purchased the QX410 last week, even after reading this thread. Liked the machine and the feel of the keyboard (IOW, I'm like shiny new things). I agree, the touchpad is very annoying. The issue has been reported on lauchpad at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/681904.

    In the meantime, I've decided to bind xinput commands to key combinations to turn on/off the touchpad manually. Not a perfect solution, but in the meantime I can type without issue while waiting for a fix to get the Elantech touchpad recongized. I'm running Linux Mint 10 and using CompizConfig Settings Manager to bind a key combinations to shell scripts. Here's what I did (for other Linux n00bs like me):

    1. Create a shell script that will turn on the mouse using xinput (e.g. ~/scripts/mouseon)
    Code:
    xinput set-int-prop "PS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse" "Device Enabled" 8 1
    2. Create a shell script that will turn off the mouse using xinput (e.g. ~/scripts/mouseoff)
    Code:
    xinput set-int-prop "PS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse" "Device Enabled" 8 0
    3. Make sure both scripts are executable
    Code:
    chmod u+x ~/scripts/mouseon
    chmod u+X ~/scripts/mouseoff
    4. Open up CompizConfig (System > Control Center > CompizConfig Settings Manager)

    5. Click the "Commands" option under "General"

    6. In the "Commands" tab, type the absolute path to mouseon in one free command line

    7. Type the absolute path to mouseoff in another free command line

    8. Click the "Key Bindings" tab and enable the command lines you chose in the previous steps and assign key combinations for them (I'm using Shift+Control+UpArrow to turn mouse on and Shift+Control+DownArrow to turn mouse off).

    HTH

    Reference
    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input

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    Re: Samsung QX410 issues (touchpad, nvidia, brightness/volume)

    Ubuntu already has the infrastructure in place to handle most of the QX410's keys.

    The udev subsystem handles mapping actual keypresses to keycodes which can then be interpreted by the operating system and programs to perform actual functions. A set of rules tell udev which keycode to generate for every key. The rules for Samsung computers are already there, and can handle most of the quirks of the QX410, but they don't get loaded because, since the model is so new, it's not in the list of Samsung computers that Ubuntu has. It can be added manually and things work much better that way.

    How to do it:

    1- Open /lib/udev/rules.d/95-keyboard-force-release.rules with your favorite text editor.
    2- Go to line 22, which begins:
    Code:
    ENV{DMI_VENDOR}=="[sS][aA][mM][sS][uU][nN][gG]*"
    3- The line contains a list of Samsung models. Near the end of the line, after *X460*, add the QX410, so the list ends like this:
    Code:
    |*X460*|*QX410*"
    DO NOT delete the stuff that's still at the end of the line (,RUN+=... and so on)
    4- Reboot

    After doing this:
    1- The volume and brightness up/down keys now work correctly, they don't stick all the way up or down.
    2- The Fn-F2 (display battery status) and Fn-F10 (disable touchpad) keys now work correctly. The Fn-F10 is particularly useful because it allows us to disable the touchpad manually when typing.
    3- The Fn-F5 (disable backlight), F7 (help center), F8 (silent mode) and F9 (disable wireless) keys are available in the keyboard shortcuts dialog, and can thus be assigned commands to mimic their functions under Windows.

    There's still the question of the touchpad, which will have to wait until support for the Elan trackpad is added to the kernel's mouse driver.

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    Re: Samsung QX410 issues (touchpad, nvidia, brightness/volume)

    Thanks for the tip Roadmaster. Works like a charm.

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    Re: Samsung QX410 issues (touchpad, nvidia, brightness/volume)

    This also worked for Samsung SF310. Apparently it should work for the whole product line: Samsung QX310/QX410/QX510/SF310/SF410/SF510. Thanks Roadmaster!

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    Re: Samsung QX410 issues (touchpad, nvidia, brightness/volume)

    What about the Samsung NP-RF510? Should that work with that too? I own one and, with the exception of the NVIDIA driver issue, I'm experiencing the same symptoms as the OP.

    I bookmarked both the touchpad and keyboard solutions to try them out. I think I'll reboot into Ubuntu right now since I don't feel like playing games on my PC right now...

    EDIT: Yes, it does work! Just put RF510 in /lib/udev/rules.d/95-keyboard-force-release.rules as suggested and it'll work! Brightness won't change, though...
    Last edited by Quadunit404; December 29th, 2010 at 06:09 AM. Reason: Because I found out that keyboard solution does work, kinda
    Use what works out best for you, whether it be Windows, Mac OS X or Linux. It isn't rocket science.

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    Re: Samsung QX410 issues (touchpad, nvidia, brightness/volume)

    There is another way to quickly disable/enable the touchpad (tested on QX510):

    For disable the touchpad type in terminal:

    Code:
    xinput --set-prop "PS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse" "Device Enabled" 1
    For enable the touchpad type in terminal:

    Code:
    xinput --set-prop "PS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse" "Device Enabled" 0
    I set shortcuts this way for turn on / turn off but now the Roadmaster's way is easier.

    However adding the command line xinput --set-prop "PS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse" "Device Enabled" 0 as a new Startup Program is great solution when you use commonly a mouse instead of touchpad. You can always turn on the touchpad by Ctrl+F10 after apply the Roadmaster's fix.

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