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    apt-get removed network-manager?

    I had something unusual happen and thought I should mention it, see if it was worth reporting to someone.

    I was going to arping something the other day and found it wasn't installed. So I used sudo apt-get install arping. It went through fine, I was arpinging happily. I shut down for the night, and then this morning, I couldn't connect to the internet.

    I do some searching around and get eth0 added to me /etc/network/interfaces correctly, and I'm back online, but I can't see the network manager to connect to a wireless network; not a big deal since I have a dock here, but I might want to go on the move.

    So, I start looking around forums and in the process of following some of those guides, I find NetworkManager is not installed!

    I get it installed and everything managed properly again. My system is working as intended. But now I'm curious what happened, so I start looking at some of the logs in /var/log. Then I find this in /var/log/apt

    peatheri@philip:/var/log/apt$ cat history.log | grep network-manager -B 4

    Start-Date: 2010-11-15 09:48:40
    Commandline: apt-get install arping
    Install: arping:i386 (2.09-2)
    Remove: network-manager:i386 (0.8.1+git.20100810t184654.ab580f4-0ubuntu2), network-manager-gnome:i386 (0.8.1+git.20100809t190028.290dc70-0ubuntu3), iputils-arping:i386 (20100418-2ubuntu1)
    End-Date: 2010-11-15 09:49:01


    Why is installing arping removing network-manager? Is this a bug in the package, the repository, sunspots?? I was concerned so I figured I'd post it, and maybe if someone else has this issue, they'll see an answer.

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    Re: apt-get removed network-manager?

    Please report this as a bug.

    One of the benefits of using Synaptic is that you can see what will happen before it happens. I told it to install arping in Maverick, and it told me it would remove network manager. Cancel, cancel, cancel!

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    Re: apt-get removed network-manager?

    Quote Originally Posted by gordintoronto View Post
    Please report this as a bug.

    One of the benefits of using Synaptic is that you can see what will happen before it happens. I told it to install arping in Maverick, and it told me it would remove network manager. Cancel, cancel, cancel!
    I just double checked from another machine, apt-get warned me too, I'm just a big dumby

    kids@efam1:/var/log/apt$ sudo apt-get install arping
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    The following extra packages will be installed:
    libnet1
    The following packages will be REMOVED:
    iputils-arping network-manager network-manager-gnome
    The following NEW packages will be installed:
    arping libnet1
    0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 3 to remove and 139 not upgraded.
    Need to get 82.9kB of archives.
    After this operation, 3,371kB disk space will be freed.
    Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
    Abort.


    I'll go report it, what a kick in the pants way to learn to read!


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    Wow, this was reported in 2008 and listed as fixed. arping conflicts with ip-utils arping, which is a dependency for network-manager. The bug is listed as solved.

    Removing three system packages isn't a bug, it's a feature!
    Last edited by rillip; November 17th, 2010 at 03:11 AM.

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    Re: apt-get removed network-manager?

    I'd also be interested in a solution for installing arping without removing network-manager.

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    Re: apt-get removed network-manager?

    Quote Originally Posted by 68omalley View Post
    I'd also be interested in a solution for installing arping without removing network-manager.
    So the existing arping version that you want to replace doesn't work?
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    Re: apt-get removed network-manager?

    As far as I can tell there are two versions of arping (see last entry here). I know the MAC address of a machine and I am trying to figure out the IP (which is not static). It seems that the iputils version cannot do this, but the other version can.

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    Re: apt-get removed network-manager?

    Quote Originally Posted by 68omalley View Post
    As far as I can tell there are two versions of arping (see last entry here). I know the MAC address of a machine and I am trying to figure out the IP (which is not static). It seems that the iputils version cannot do this, but the other version can.
    Don't install the .deb, install a binary:

    http://www.habets.pp.se/synscan/prog...hp?prog=arping
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    Re: apt-get removed network-manager?

    Hello

    First of all, I would like to kill the author of arping, who presents this bug as a feature. How can we use arping if we lack connnectivity?

    I don't got any interfaces at all anymore, I had no idea of what happened and have already lost 2 hours of my life, and I'm quite sure it will waste my all evening;


    I can't install the network manager as I don't have internet. Downloading the folder and ./configure make and so on won't make it, I got 5 unresolved dependances, and I got to download them one by one seperately.

    Yeah, typing ifconfig gives me one and only one interface: lo.

    If someone could help me it would greatly help me, I have no intention of reinstalling everything for such a trivial error...
    I use linux as a main and only OS. I'm even borrowing the computer of a friend to tell you this.


    Thanks you

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    Re: apt-get removed network-manager?

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