Unity to be included as part of the default desktop installation

[Johnsie]

You've clearly never used Unity... You only need at most two mouse-clicks to launch an application, usually only one.

Maybe the same number of clicks, but you have to move the mouse all over the screen just to open an application and that sucks.

Westerners read from left to right, that's why it's pretty stupid to have the sidebar on the left getting in the way. The first thing I do when I install Ubuntu is put the panels at the bottom of the screen so they wont get in my field of vision unless I need them.

[NightwishFan]

I will have to agree with the above. However the potential is there if it is smoothed out a bit.

Edit: above the above

[qamelian]

I will have to agree with the above. However the potential is there if it is smoothed out a bit.
Edit: above the above

I can see the potential as well for other users, but I can't see anything at the moment that would make me choose it over Gnome Shell. So far, I find Unity to be incredibly awful to use. I'm going to continue using it on one machine for a two week period though just to try and give it a fair trial. Another thin I noticed is that every time I mouse over the sidebar, the entire screen goes black and takes up to 45 seconds to redraw once I withdraw the mouse from the left edge. During the redraw, nothing is clickable.

[NightwishFan]

Do not judge it too harshly. The desktop version of Unity will probably not be like the netbook one. I doubt it will do the maximized windows and appmenu.

[MacUntu]

GNOME Shell just requires basic knowledge of CSS and you can change how it looks and play.

So can you change things other than the looks? Eg. move the side pane (or whatever it is called) to the right?

[SushiR]

Do not judge it too harshly. The desktop version of Unity will probably not be like the netbook one. I doubt it will do the maximized windows and appmenu.

There will be window controls. Read it somewhere yesterday, can't just find the link.

[cariboo907]

I am using it right now and you are clearly wrong. It took 4 mouse clicks to launch OOo Calc. One for the menu, one to select Office which took me to a screen completely unrelated to office apps with a text bar of app categories at the top, one to click on office in said text bar which finally takes me to my office apps, and one to at last launch Calc. It does exactly the same no matter which class of app I select. Exactly 4 clicks every time.

Try clicking the applications icon in the panel, then under all application scroll down to OpenOffice Spreadsheet and click the icon, that looks like 2 clicks to me .

[NCLI]

I am using it right now and you are clearly wrong. It took 4 mouse clicks to launch OOo Calc. One for the menu, one to select Office which took me to a screen completely unrelated to office apps with a text bar of app categories at the top, one to click on office in said text bar which finally takes me to my office apps, and one to at last launch Calc. It does exactly the same no matter which class of app I select. Exactly 4 clicks every time.

One click to open the Applications overlay, then type the name of the application on the keyboard, and click the icon. Two mouse clicks.

Besides, after doing this once, you can just right-click the icon in the launcher and pin it, making all future launches one click.

Maybe the same number of clicks, but you have to move the mouse all over the screen just to open an application and that sucks.

Read the above.

Westerners read from left to right, that's why it's pretty stupid to have the sidebar on the left getting in the way. The first thing I do when I install Ubuntu is put the panels at the bottom of the screen so they wont get in my field of vision unless I need them.

Accroding to the blueprint, you will be able to move the launcher freely in 11.04.

Besides, I remember the left-to-right argument coming out a lot back when the buttons were moved, and there were quite a few articles posted which disproved that idea.
With that logic, the bezel on your screen also gets in the way.

Breezy and Dapper were good, but it's just getting worse and worse now.

1. That's just your opinion.
2. It's not really a fair/relevant opinion, since 11.04 hasn't been released yet.

[MasterNetra]

...Breezy and Dapper were good, but it's just getting worse and worse now.

Indeed your opinion, and mine is that its been getting better, with some annoyances/hiccups but considering neither Breezy nor Dapper will run effectively or not at all on my machine I'll stick with the more recent versions of Ubuntu.

But hey if Dapper & Breezy work best for you then stick with them. Canonical is just moving forward like pretty much everything else. Standing still usually results in extinction at some point ya know.

[MasterNetra]

Meh, Unity is suppose to be what is actually used in 11.04 and is supposed to drop to 2.x if it finds the system is unable to run Unity. Gnome-Shell I think is just extra at this point. I'll give 11.04 a run, doesn't seem sensible to me to reject something before A: it comes out, and B: I try it.