How long do you guys expect ancient hardware to be supported by new OS's?
I have one of these graphics cards in a system at home and that also has an 800MHz Pentium III processor and 768MB of RAM (maxed out). It's still running 8.04.
At some point you have to hang it up and move on.
It's so old that here are the supported Windows OS's:
WHQL-certified for Windows XP, WindowsHere's what you'll see at the bottom of the data sheet for this device:
Me, Windows 2000, Windows NT, and
Windows 98
Registered trademark NVIDIA® Corporation, 2002. 4 x 4 Evo 2 copyright 2001So I'd highly recommend newer hardware or an older OS.
24 beers in a case, 24 hours in a day. Coincidence? I think not!
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I successfully downgraded X to the version in Lucid (1.7).
Works like a charm for me. No problems with 3D or resolutions.
Besides X everything is just like a new os
If anyone wants to know how...post a request in this thread, I'll see what I can do to reproduce the steps.
24 beers in a case, 24 hours in a day. Coincidence? I think not!
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Last edited by xingular; October 12th, 2010 at 06:46 PM.
Disclaimer: this is what I did, it worked for me, it might not for you. This could break your system.
So here's what I did. First off I used Synaptic to force and lock the versions for all the xserver-xorg packages. Synaptic requires a gui (duh) so a working X with the nv drivers is needed.
step 1) If you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (you shouldn't) back it up now.
step 2) Add the following repositories to /etc/apt/sources.list:
step 3) Update the repositoriesCode:deb http://en.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main deb-src http://en.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main
step 4) Purge xserver-xorg:Code:sudo apt-get update
step 5) This step requires a bit of work. Fire up Synaptic, search for xserver-xorg, sort by name.Code:sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg
For pretty much each xserver-xorg package with the Ubuntu logo you'll want to "Force Version" (Ctrl+E) and select the Lucid version. Then choose "Lock version".
If Synaptic wants to mark other packages choose Cancel each time otherwise you'll simply get an error-message that it can't/won't be able to install.
For completeness here is the list of packages and their versions I locked.
I wanted to do this step with some script-fu but couldn't figure out a good way to lock (pin) the packages. Maybe someone else can make a suggestion.
step 6) Reinstall xserver-xorgCode:xserver-xorg=1:7.5+5ubuntu1 xserver-xorg-core=2:1.7.6-2ubuntu7 xserver-xorg-input-evdev=1:2.3.2-5ubuntu1 xserver-xorg-input-mouse=1:1.5.0-1 xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse=1:12.6.5-4ubuntu2 xserver-xorg-input-wacom=1:0.10.5-0ubuntu4 xserver-xorg-video-apm=1:1.2.2-1 xserver-xorg-video-ark=1:0.7.2-1 xserver-xorg-video-chips=1:1.2.2-1 xserver-xorg-video-cirrus=1:1.3.2-1ubuntu1 xserver-xorg-video-fbdev=1:0.4.1-1ubuntu1 xserver-xorg-video-geode=2.11.8-4 xserver-xorg-video-i128=1:1.3.3-1 xserver-xorg-video-i740=1:1.3.2-1 xserver-xorg-video-intel=2:2.9.1-3ubuntu5 xserver-xorg-video-mga=1:1.4.11.dfsg-2ubuntu1 xserver-xorg-video-neomagic=1:1.2.4-2 xserver-xorg-video-nv=1:2.1.15-1ubuntu3 xserver-xorg-video-radeon=1:6.13.0-1ubuntu5 xserver-xorg-video-rendition=1:4.2.3-1 xserver-xorg-video-s3=1:0.6.3-1 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge=1:1.10.4-1 xserver-xorg-video-savage=1:2.3.1-1ubuntu1 xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion=1:1.7.3-1 xserver-xorg-video-sis=1:0.10.2-2 xserver-xorg-video-sisusb=1:0.9.3-1 xserver-xorg-video-tdfx=1:1.4.3-1 xserver-xorg-video-trident=1:1.3.3-1 xserver-xorg-video-tseng=1:1.2.3-1 xserver-xorg-video-v4l=1:0.2.0-4 xserver-xorg-video-vesa=1:2.3.0-1ubuntu1 xserver-xorg-video-vmware=1:10.16.9-1 xserver-xorg-video-voodoo=1:1.2.3-1
You should now see a list of packages it wants to install. Verify that these are the "older" (Lucid) versions and then go ahead.Code:sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
step 7) After restarting X you should be done, if the nvidia-driver won't load you might want to try running:
Not sure but I think so. Use google for this oneCode:sudo nvidia-xconfig
Till the hardware dies. Why throw out a perfectly good working piece of hardware?
Wasn't part of the promise of Linux you could run it on old "obsolete hardware?"
The problem I am experiencing is really weird. Now, sometimes when I boot up, everything seems fine. Other times I get a page full of lines of text and a command prompt.
And everything did work perfectly in Lucid.
A suggestion for any developer of Ubuntu "listening" why not add a routine in upgrades that searches the existing hardware and lets the person upgrading know of potential conflicts before they do the upgrade, and possibly ways to get around it for the time being?
A MX440 will run in vista, at least (possibly win7 but I havent tried that). With vista, you HAVE to us the built-in vista driver. BTW, the main reason why there is no offical support for the MX440 is because the MX440 is a DX7 card, vista + win7 need a DX9 cards, but vista with a MX440 worked for me (thats also the reason why the 3Ti and 4Ti card dont have offical vista/win7 drivers, they are only DX8 cards)
10.10 would have no problems supporting the 96.xx drivers right now if it was using xorg 1.8.x, and the 96.xx drivers should get a version that works with xorg 1.9 sooner or later.
If you want to run on really old hardware, use really old software.
That "promise" that you speak of can only be taken so far. Should 10.10 also have CGA support?
If you like the way that it worked with Lucid, you should keep using Lucid. It's an LTS and that means that you can use it for a long time.
24 beers in a case, 24 hours in a day. Coincidence? I think not!
Trusty Tahr 64 bit, AMD Phenom II 955 Quad Core 3.2GHz, GeForce 9600 GT
16G PC2-6400 RAM, 128 GB SSD, Twin 1TB SATA 7200 RPM RAID0
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