"Places" mount vs. Terminal mount

[UncleBoarder]

How is mounting from the Places menu different than a command line mount?

I have an NTFS volume that can be mounted either way (must be root from command line). If I mount it from Places, I can delete files/folders and they go to the trash. But if I mount it from command line..

sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/test

Then (when mounted from command line) if I delete a file/folder it prompts me to skip or discard it immediately. It doesn't use the .Trash folder.

I want the command line mount to work the same as the Places mount.

[akakingess]

Can you mount it without using "sudo"?

[UncleBoarder]

No, I get an error... "only root can do that".

[WorMzy]

I assume that mounting through nautilus passes a bunch of default arguments to the mount command, but mounting by commandline relies on you giving the arguments.

Take a look at /etc/mtab the next time you mount something through Nautilus and see what arguments it was mounted with. Once you know what arguments you should mount the partition with, you can mount it exactly the same way with the mount command.

[UncleBoarder]

That sounds very promising but can you give me a hand with syntax?

Here's the mtab statement when mounted via command line...

/dev/sdc1 /media/temp fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0

And here's the mtab when mounted via Places...

/dev/sdc1 /media/Backup fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_p ermissions 0 0

So apparently I'm missing "default_permissions".

What's the syntax to add default_permissions to my command line mount statement?

[WorMzy]

sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /media/temp -o rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions

Should do it. Assuming it's an ntfs partition.

[UncleBoarder]

It does look closer to the Places mount. Same options when I mount it via command line but interestingly "allow_other" is included twice. No idea why.

AND... more importantly... it doesn't fix the problem.

When mounted via command line, I can't hit delete to delete a folder. When I do, I get...

"Cannot move file to trash, do you want to delete immediately? [Cancel] [Skip] [Delete]

But it continues to work properly if mounted via Places. And now both mount methods show the same mounted options in mtab.

Any ideas?

[Miljet]

I noticed that the two methods are mounting to different mount points, one to /media/temp and the other to /media/Backup. Have you looked at the permissions of those two mount points to see what is different?

[WorMzy]

Maybe it has something to do with the ownership of the files. How does the ls -l output look for the respective directories contents?

(mount the partition one way, open a terminal and "cd" to the folder, then run "ls -l", then unmount the partition, mount it the other way and use "ls -l" again)

If root owns the files, or the file permissions are different for the command line mounted partition, try mounting with this instead:

sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /media/temp -o rw,nosuid,nodev,default_permissions,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=002

Assuming that your uid is 1000.

[UncleBoarder]

It works... testing further.