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    Quote Originally Posted by seenthelite View Post
    Will not bother me. I am a law abiding citizen
    Good for you. So am I, which is why I don't want or need Nanny Conroy looking over my shoulder, assuming I'm going to look at something naughty unless he's there to stop me. I'm an adult, I can make my own decisions.

    Quote Originally Posted by seenthelite View Post
    living in the best democracy in the world.
    That's debatable.
    If you can't be bothered writing coherently, I can't be bothered reading your post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike-X View Post
    Good for you. So am I, which is why I don't want or need Nanny Conroy looking over my shoulder, assuming I'm going to look at something naughty unless he's there to stop me. I'm an adult, I can make my own decisions.

    I do not support or agree with the proposed Australian Internet Filtering. If Labor is returned and the Opposition controls the Senate I doubt they will support or pass the legislation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlee View Post
    and welcome to the new reality.... -> http://www.smh.com.au/technology/tec...722-10mxo.html
    Funny how just a week or two ago they made a Declaration of Open Government: http://agimo.govspace.gov.au/2010/07...en-government/

    Quote Originally Posted by seenthelite View Post
    We are about to have a Federal Election and if the average Australian does not want Internet Filtering it will not happen.
    Why wouldn't the average Australian want the Government to stop child porn and protect children? That's what this is about... right?

    Quote Originally Posted by cascade9 View Post
    IMO, a 2 party system is not a democracy. I'll leave it at that, or else I will getting too political.
    It is a democracy, it's just a failed democracy. The problem is most people think that voting for a party that will "never get in" is a wasted vote. On the contrary, voting for a major party is a wasted vote, because it means they have no reason to be accountable to the public. After all, both the ALP and Coalition/LNP have a 50/50 chance of getting in. Why would accountability be a requirement?

    I plan to vote for minor parties and independents and put the Big Two at the bottom of the list. Independents can only survive by listening to their constituents. Major parties survive just because being at the polling booths is like being at a football game: everyone votes for their team (or in this day and age everyone votes for the team captain which is really sad because policies never cross peoples' minds any more).

    Vote below the line. Voting above means your preferenced party votes for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by seenthelite View Post
    I do not support or agree with the proposed Australian Internet Filtering. If Labor is returned and the Opposition controls the Senate I doubt they will support or pass the legislation.
    Why wouldn't the Opposition want control over information flow? It's a grey area. The Shadow Comms Minister is a moron and completely silent on the issue and politicians will typically do anything to gain and/or maintain control over information. On the flip side, the Opposition had Senate majority during their last term in Government and decided not to pass filtering legislation because they didn't think it could work according to their evidence.

    The difference between the former and current Governments' positions is that the former was evidence-based policy while the current Government prefers policy-based evidence.
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    I find it interesting that you people down there are even discussing this as a policy choice, as if you have any say in the process. I also find it rare and refreshing that some democracies still have a element of citizen discussion that is civil and reasonable, despite the odds against it...i.e. isn't Murdock still in charge of public information as he is in the US. The only thing I have against Australia is that you guys somehow convinced Murdock that he could fry larger fish if he left you alone and focused on destroying the US. Thanks a lot.

    Actually, as a positive sign, while traveling around the world I find that there is more citizen participation in their governments than ever, particularly in places where that is a new concept. The only place where it has gone from bad to inconceivably bad is the US where the official policy is now that corporations have ultimate control of public policy, education, health, military issues and all aspects of the economy, foreign relations, and the systematic elimination of the middle class. Since you still have either the reality of or the illusion of a citizen dominated democracy, debate away and make a reasoned, informed decision......good luck!

    If I was a citizen down there I would not want the government involved at all in information exchange. Nothing good can come of it. But I am in favor of many roles for the government, with proper oversight by the people, in establishing and maintaining the "commons" such as universal education and health services, national defense, and regulation of industry for the benefit of the people. None of that requires government supervision of information.

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    At the end of the day, the ISPs and ESPs are accountable to their paying customers, not the government. If enough people talk with their wallets.....
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    Re: Australian Internet Filtering Position

    Please keep discussion to Internet Filtering and keep general Political discussion out of the thread.
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    Re: Australian Internet Filtering Position

    I think its funny when adults have to tell other adults what they can hear say and see, on tv, internet, and radio. I dont like it when people go around and try to micromanage your life with their "I know what you want, you dont know what you want; and im going to make you have it" crap. When people start acting like that they go all gung-ho on telling you how they want YOU to live, and ignore any unforseen consequences of their actions.

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    Re: Australian Internet Filtering Position

    As I read the first post, I was all set to answer, but Spike beat me to it in post #3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lisati View Post
    At the end of the day, the ISPs and ESPs are accountable to their paying customers, not the government. If enough people talk with their wallets.....
    The proposed filter is mandatory, which means all ISPs in Australia will have to comply. We won't have a choice.
    If you can't be bothered writing coherently, I can't be bothered reading your post.

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    Re: Australian Internet Filtering Position

    Conroy shelves net filter as election looms.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225889985524

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