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    Australian Internet Filtering Position

    With sites like this appearing everywhere: http://www.dontfilterme.com

    Just trying to get a general opinion with what everyone thinks of the filtering situation in Australia. Whether you believe its a good thing or a bad thing or you don't really care. I'm writing a letter to an Australian MP (Member of Parliament) and I want to get some actual opinions of what other systems administrators think of the internet filter, even if they are not in Australia. Not only at a technical aspect but at an opinion aspect as well.

    Either reply on list or pm me. I just want to get a general idea.

    Thanks,

    Ryan.

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    Re: Australian Internet Filtering Position

    Quote Originally Posted by link
    I would rather keep my gmail conversations, banking details and other information my business.
    >my gmail conversations
    >my business

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    Re: Australian Internet Filtering Position

    My position is thus:

    I am an adult human being. I do not need anyone else deciding for me what I should be able to see or read on the Internet. I will not vote for any government who decides it is their role to decide these things for me.

    It is my job to decide what my children see or read on the Internet. I will not vote for any government who decides it is their role to decide these things for me.

    The proposed filter will, like all available censorware, inevitably end up blocking perfectly legitimate content, while letting undesirable material slip through the net. And the bottom line, for all the WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!! types, it will not prevent one child from being harmed in any way. Including the adorable little lass whose picture has been posted above, for I'm not quite sure what reason.
    Last edited by Spike-X; July 12th, 2010 at 07:11 AM.
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    Re: Australian Internet Filtering Position

    Quote Originally Posted by Spike-X View Post
    My position is thus:

    I am an adult human being. I do not need anyone else deciding for me what I should be able to see or read on the Internet. I will not vote for any government who decides it is their role to decide these things for me.

    It is my job to decide what my children see or read on the Internet. I will not vote for any government who decides it is their role to decide these things for me.

    The proposed filter will, like all available censorware, inevitably end up blocking perfectly legitimate content, while letting undesirable material slip through the net. And the bottom line, for all the WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!! types, it will not prevent one child from being harmed in any way.
    I agree completely.

    As for some of the more pathetic examples of failed censorship, most schools in the U.S. have content filters which block perfectly legitimate sites, including wikipedia articles. For instance, when I was doing some research for a project on rome, the wikipedia page for Julius Caesar was blocked for 'martial arts'. It just gave me the mental image of roman ninjas... come to think of it, that probably would be an interesting idea for a movie...

    Strange to think Australia was once a penal colony.
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    Re: Australian Internet Filtering Position

    and welcome to the new reality.... -> http://www.smh.com.au/technology/tec...722-10mxo.html
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    Re: Australian Internet Filtering Position

    Will not bother me. I am a law abiding citizen living in the best democracy in the world.
    Last edited by seenthelite; July 26th, 2010 at 04:57 AM.

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    Re: Australian Internet Filtering Position

    When I am feeling disappointed by things going on in the US regarding technology & the internet, I often stop and say to myself "Thank God, at least, I don't live in Australia."

    No joke.

    Given the recent troubles you guys have had, I fear for the general collective future of your tech-savvy youth.

    I realize there are plenty of places much worse for a nerd to live, but not many that can make a credible claim to be Democracies.

    Not that we don't have our own very critical problems, of course, but they aren't as directly oppressive to nerds.

    It's hard to make a post like this without making it too political and wandering into 'thread closed' territory. Please bear with the ambiguities in my post, and lets not turn this into a US/AUS pissing contest. My opinion was sought, and it has been provided.
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    Re: Australian Internet Filtering Position

    Yeah, the censoring in Oz appears to be pretty bad. In the UK it's not nearly as bad, any filtering that does happen is at the whim of ISPs and schools. And like others have said filtering software is utterly useless. At my old school, it was too easy to find an accessible 'adult' site (just to see if we could, you understand ) whereas a wikipedia article on the Pope was blocked under 'Porn'.

    On the general ethics of censoring, I choose what I want to see, not anyone else. Telling people what they can or cannot see is akin to a dictatorship, except a dictatorship is better, because it is honest. This is just pretending to 'protect the poor little children!' when it does nothing of the sort. Not saying that that isn't their goal, just that it is pointlessly draconian.

    Sorry if this is straying into the realms of politics, if it is I will refrain, but that is just my thoughts on the subject.

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    Re: Australian Internet Filtering Position

    We are about to have a Federal Election and if the average Australian does not want Internet Filtering it will not happen.

    The Australian government (cough cough, Stephen Conroy) want to filter and monitor our internet! I don't know about you, but I don't like being watched by big brother! I would rather keep my gmail conversations, banking details and other information my business.
    If people are concerned now is the time to make it an election issue.
    Last edited by seenthelite; July 25th, 2010 at 05:42 AM.

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    Re: Australian Internet Filtering Position

    Quote Originally Posted by Old Marcus View Post
    In the UK it's not nearly as bad, any filtering that does happen is at the whim of ISPs and schools.
    If consumers still have a choice, and if the filtered service is the more expensive option, then I have no objections to ISP-provided filters being available.

    (Though using OpenDNS would still probably be a better option for concerned parents with kids in the house. You know, since parenting is now apparently obsolete.)

    Zero objections to school filters. Ditto for public library filters, and filters in the workplace.
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