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    Re: What Ubuntu Needs

    The people at Adobe who make the Linux Flash Player are an embarrasement to Adobe. Even Gnash (the open-source project) supports fluent full-screen and GPU acceleration via VDPAU. Adobe's engineers claim that the latter is impossible, too.
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    Thank you for the comments.

    These aren't things that are controlled by Ubuntu.

    Flash is offered by Adobe and xorg is a separate organization than Ubuntu.

    The best solution would seem to post on the Adobe Flash forums and contacting xorg directly or posting bugs on launchpad for xorg issues.

    I personally don't have these issues with Nvidia drivers or Flash for that matter, so another thing you may look at is your hardware compatibility.
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    Re: What Ubuntu Needs

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCosmicFrog View Post
    Hi guys,


    2) While probably not strictly the fault of Ubuntu or Linux, Adobe's Flash Player for Linux is quite simply terrible. I have their latest 10.1 release with GPU acceleration. I like to think I have a good PC; 2GHz Core 2 Duo and Nvidia 9600M GT video chip. Yet, if I try to run a YouTube video fullscreen at 480p, it struggles, with screen-tearing by the bucketload. 720p? Let's not even go there. 1080p? I'd fear for my computer's life!

    They're the main things I have gripes with when it comes to Ubuntu. Otherwise it's a very good OS. Does anyone have anything to add or any comments on the above?

    Thanks guys
    Only the Windows version of Flash uses GPU acceleration. They didn't feel the Linux version would work.

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    Re: What Ubuntu Needs

    what Ubuntu needs now is to popularise the OS, by getting them pre-installed in laptops and noteboooks, every laptop/netbook I see comes with Windows 7 pre-installed. They also need to talk to hardware manufacturers and get them to develop drivers for their systems.

    Once a system gets popular there is no reason why people would go in for Linux

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    Lunduke is a Windows fanboi, if thats the case, I can make blogs after blogs on Why Windows Sucks but thats childish. Just because he couldn't figure something out with his Windows mentality don't mean thats the norm. As for dual screens, it works fine here using latest nvidia beta 256 drivers installed via PPA for X, no issues at all. One needs to shake off Windows approach to work on Linux or be prepared for frustration and abandonment eventually.
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    Multimedia on Ubuntu sucks in general. There's alot of reasons why people who are doing big multimedia events don't use Linux:

    • The sound is really bad

    • There are a lack of high quality presentation packages... No Open Office does not cut it. If you've ever used presenter pro on a mac you'll know what I'm talking about.

    • Video/Monitor detection on Linux is awful. With Windows you can at least force a manufacturer-made driver into place

    • Lack of high quality music production packages like pro-tools etc which are the industry standard

    • Lack of high quality video production software

    • Realtime audio recording?

    • Bad support for video cameras and video mixing

    • No Adobe Premier

    • Photoshop requires Wine and doesn't always work well

    • No good programs for creating high quality flash





    Now you can see why most professionals who work with media stay away from Linux. Yes there are a few alternative packages out there, but none of them are of a high enough standard to replace the actual proprietary packages.
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    Hi guys, OP here.

    Some interesting responses. Strange how so many of you are having a good user experience with Flash and multiple monitor setups. Some of you asked about my hardware; I'm running an MSI GX620 hi-spec laptop (or at least it was in September when I bought it!).

    Someone mentioned that one shouldn't take the Windows approach to Linux. I like to think I've done that for the most part, especially when it comes to installing and compiling software packages. But I do feel that for things like multiple-monitors and sound output it should be just as easy as Windows. These are things that people just don't want to mess with. Like it or not, people prefer the Mac cliché, "it just works".

    And Flash GPU acceleration doesn't work for Linux? Argh...

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    Re: What Ubuntu Needs

    Quote Originally Posted by Linuxforall View Post
    Lunduke is a Windows fanboi, if thats the case,...
    What are you on about ?

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    I just set up a Twin Monitor on new Win7 Pro. It wasn't easy, and it was a Win7 pre-installed big buck Multi-media system.

    The second screen would not come on at first, even though I hit the right buttons. HP was of no help. I got into the nVidea driver app and started looking around. There was some obscure command I had to alter. Then the screen was off 2" to the left, so you couldn't use it. More experimenting.

    Finally got it to work, but not at the 1920x1200 that the monitor supports, but 1920x1080. Good enough. Two days later, there were Windows Updates, and the problem happened again. It lost all the settings.

    But that's OK, it doesn't run my Windows CAD software anyways. White Elephant computer.

    I can't even imagine how smooth it would have gone if it wasn't a Win7 Certified system.

    Oddly enough, my 6 year old Dell with XP had zero issues setting up for duals.
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