Re: Is maverick going to fix the horrible plymouth for nvidia?
You and most of the folks on this thread can't seem to understand that the bugger doesn't work even if you disable the graphics part of it.
Originally Posted by Slug71
The graphics are not an necessary thing at all. Plymouthd has not grahic function. It is instigated by libplymouth2.
I have the graphics turned off on my installs and have "splash" removed from my menu. This does, I will admit, improve things. I can boot.
That you can fob off on the drivers although I see no reason that driver devs should worry about making their drivers fit one particular app.
What you can't blame on the drivers is the 50 to 75 second boot time and the 85 to 300 second shut down time that is taken up by errors from plymouth and ureadahead.
The Ubuntu devs have done a remarkable job in improving the performance of this piece of crap. The are not going to get it to work a whole lot better. Why? Because what they are doing is patching.
If you have a boat made of rust, patches do not help in the long run. They will cause the hulk to sink faster when that inevitably occurs.
I admire their determination, but not the bull headedness to not see that they have just about ruined and LTS and, it appears, this current development stage OS too. This is not a great way to run anything.
This is an insult to all the devs that have worked hard to make a great LTS just to have it ruined by this faulty boot crap. It is an insult to the loyal users of Ubuntu that this thing is continuing into another release.
I am sorry that you have been looking forward to this piece of crap. I have been looking forward to a replacement for my 8.04LTS. Gee I am glad they have their priorities straight. Lets please the folks that want a few seconds of eye candy at the expense of those users who really want a reliable, bootable, OS capable of being shut down.
Makes no sense what so ever and I am really tired of the folks trying to blame everything else but plymouth. Damn straight it is everything elses fault. They ought to scrap the Linux kernel and start over with the priority being the ability to run plymouth. Then maybe we could ave a real OS.
Bunk. If you develop an app, it is up to you, as the developer, to make sure it is compatable with the things it runs on and the depends that you design it to use. That includes drivers which are used by may things that have no trouble with them at all.
Plymouth obviously has a completely alien requirement from its environment than anything else. Inflict it on MS. Get it the hell off my box.
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