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    monitor cuts off. mouse and keyboard lock up from live CDs

    this is a bit long, thanks for reading and replying! my machine: a custum built with Intel core 2 quad processor, two harddrives each with atleast 200GB. 4GB of RAM. The motherboard has an AMI Bios. Two DVD RW drives, and I've got a brand new 24" Viewsonic 1080p monitor. Ubuntu monitor cuts off on boot from wubi.exe installed versions. mouse and keyboard lock up from live CDs.
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    [[side note: My secondary machine with an AthlonXP processor is running Xubuntu well now after installing patches to 10.04. 9.10 had ran perfectly but I decided to upgraded to the newest version. I regretted that initially. I had to try twice at the 10.04 Xubuntu installation on the AthlonXP but was successful at a really stable setup only after a complete and total reinstall of Xubuntu and without attempting to save the XP installation, and after installing the now available patches. My first attempt at upgrade went terribly after I selected the xubuntu 10.04 upgrade package from the program manager to install, from Xubuntu 9.10. It seemed far less stable than 9.10 with frequent crashes back to the login screen, maybe every 10 minutes or so. I also lost my ability to run XP from the ubuntu installedOS selection menu.. selecting Windows XP from the selection menu would cause a pause, as-if attempting to load XP, but then my Athlon-XP system would jump back to ubuntu's OS selection menu again where Windows XP and Ubuntu both appeared available for initializing. But now after reinstalling Xubuntu without an OS selector menu (without saving the Windows XP partition which no longer ran), and reinstalling the now available patches, it is very stable]]
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    Back to my main concern, the Intel Core-i5 machine with specs listed above: I'm experiencing system lockup with every linux distribution ive attempted to run (live cds of Ubuntu 10.04 and 9.10, Xubuntu 10.04, Fedora12, Knoppix under XWindow session option.) And using the wubi.exe installed Ubuntu under Windows 7 failed due to Monitor shutting down from no signal being received. several attempts with 64bit and 32bit versions-- installing, uninstalling and reinstalling, were made. Each time after selecting Ubuntu from the OS menu selector the systems reports back "loading 5, 4, 3. " [counting down] then monitor reports no input received, then it cuts off entirely. The activity lights on the computer will remain on and the hard drive indicator appears to be active for a split second about every 5 seconds or so. This goes on indefinitely. And Windows 7 runs well on this machine. 64bit and 32bit versions of Ubuntu 10.04 have been tried using the wubi.exe Windows installer.

    With the Live CDs of Ubuntu and Xubuntu or Fedora12 on this machine (Intel Core 2 Quad) I would get lock ups and the mouse and keyboard would quit working. I could move the cursor with the mouse but clicking would not activiate anything. The keyboard was useless also. With ubuntu It locked up on the select language menu selection once, other attempts would lock up just a couple of minutes after running Firefox, the first application selected after bootup. Xubuntu would always boot from live cd though but lock up later in Firefox. I also tried 9.10 versions and experienced the same problems with lock up just minutes after running Firefox, the first application run for testing after bootup from live cd. Additionally, I tried Fedora12 (same problem). Finally I tried Knoppix Adriane live cd. Everything was stable as long as I stayed out of the XWindows option. I was even able to run Firefox just fine as long as I was not inside XWindows, the last option on the menu. As soon as I ran the XWindows session and opened Firefox, shortly afterward the system lockup occured yet the mouse cursor would freely move about, the Keyboard was inactive and mouse clicks at links and buttons did nothing.

    Since I haven't yet found a stable version of linux for my Intel Core-2-Quad system I'm thinking it might be the XWindows interface common to almost all distributions. I've got two harddrives on this machine and now I am thinking about leaving Windows7 alone and installing a Ubuntu version solely on my secondary hard drive (avoiding wubi.exe windows installer) and using the Bios boot selector instead of having a menu program pop up prompting for the OS I want to boot up. I'm hoping that after I load the updates that the system will become stable and that Windows and Linux will not interfer with each other if I keep them nice and seperated.

    I'm trying to pick up this Linux and Ubuntu. My first experience with Xubuntu 9.10 on my Athlon-XP was fantastic. please offer suggestions? Thanks again for reading!

    ----Edit to now solved tread [microprocessor is Intel Core i5 rather than Core2-Quad listed throughout thread; probably would not make any difference at all, I guess]
    Last edited by markMDW; June 8th, 2010 at 06:51 PM.

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    Re: monitor cuts off. mouse and keyboard lock up from live CDs

    Hi there,
    you didn't mention what type of graphics card you have.

    When using the live CD, press F6 when the language selection screen is displayed. Try selecting one or more of the options such as nomodeset, noapic, nolapic etc.

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    Re: monitor cuts off. mouse and keyboard lock up from live CDs

    Hi, The video card in the Intel Core-2-Quad machine, the one with the monitor shutting off or keyboard / mouse-clicks not working, is a "NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS". The monitor is plugged in via the DVI-D cable.

    Do you think it would be worth while connecting it up with the available VGA port instead of the DVI-D port? Maybe the Linux driver has a glitch with DVI-D output.. Thanks!

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    Re: monitor cuts off. mouse and keyboard lock up from live CDs

    I doubt it, but it wouldnt do any harm to test running vga only for a while. How did you get on trying to install with one or more of those switches in my post?

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    Re: monitor cuts off. mouse and keyboard lock up from live CDs

    I have a Nvidia 9600Gt and had to do this:

    boot from the cd, press F6 and then select the Nomodeset option.
    then
    On first boot after install, press e on getting the GRUB bootloader.
    Using arrow keys navigate to and delete quiet and splash and type the word nomodeset in their place
    Press Ctrl and X to boot (low graphics mode)

    After I installed nvidia driver (default from pop up) then it has worked without issue.

    On my portable from the liveCd it changes from low graphice booting to high graphics booting just about the same point as my monitor went to sleep on my desktop. nomodeset must prevent that change.
    For info on UEFI boot install & repair:
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
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    Re: monitor cuts off. mouse and keyboard lock up from live CDs

    The nomodeset option works on the live cds. I installed ubuntu 10.04 from cd and at the GRUB menu used the 'e' to edit out "quiet splash" with "nomodeset". BUT.. the bootup took me only to a command line Ubuntu welcome and text login prompt. I could log in but the entire screen was command line without any graphics and I'm clueless as to what Linux commands to type next.

    When I try to boot the installation without the 'nomodeset' option [standard settings] the monitor goes to sleep. The nomodeset from live cd brings me to the low-res but working version of Ubuntu. The nomodeset from my harddrive install takes me to command line only.

    Can you tell me how to load the xwindows with Gnome for Ubuntu from the command line I get after booting from my new installation?

    Thanks for all the replies.. I'm making progress now!

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    Re: monitor cuts off. mouse and keyboard lock up from live CDs

    This starts graphics if it works. But you can run all the update commands from the command line which may also help.
    startx

    Commands to run to update.
    #houseclean
    apt-get autoclean # only removes files that cannot be downloaded anymore (obsolete)
    apt-get clean
    #refresh
    apt-get update #resync package index
    apt-get upgrade #newest versions of all packages update must be run first
    #would upgrade you to the latest kernel in the repositories
    apt-get dist-upgrade
    apt-get -f install
    dpkg --configure -a
    For info on UEFI boot install & repair:
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
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    Re: monitor cuts off. mouse and keyboard lock up from live CDs

    Also try:

    1) Leave "quiet splash" but just add "nomodeset" to the end, and also removing "quiet splash" but not replacing it with anything.

    2) Booting into Recovery Mode (in grub, select the recovery mode kernel). Boot normally and in failsafeX.

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    Re: monitor cuts off. mouse and keyboard lock up from live CDs

    Hi, I've tried the recommendations above but experienced setbacks of one sort or another each time.

    when I use the apt-get command in the text mode it boots to I get two messages back, 1> file is locked 13) permission denied 2> cannot access locked ... directory [something to that affect]

    I've now tried editing the GRUB bootup by including "quiet splash nomodeset" or just "nomodeset" or just the default "quite splash". various things happen, if don't use the nomodeset it seems the monitor always goes to sleep. And, if I use nomodeset by itself the bootup after using the "startx" commands frequently locks up upon "checking battery state" then I have to hit the reset button. But when using the "startx" command at the command line prompt after I've edited the GRUB boot sequence with both the quite splash nomodeset options then I can get into the GNOME desktop. However, the internet connection will not work and I cannot download any updates. I don't see the popup prompting to download a new video driver.

    The internet should be working I figure. Its a direct line into the same router I'm using now. The green light is on for the connection of that line, and the eithernet card shows an orange light that its plugged in. And the internet is working on this secondary computer I'm typing on now. Yesterday using the live CDs the internet was working fine with the nomodeset option selected on liveCD bootup.

    And so next I need help figuring out why internet access is failing. And I need help figuring out how to the get the apt-get commands to work in text mode after I bootup using the nomodeset GRUB option from the hard drive installation of Ubuntu 10.04. The boot into the commandline did welcome me to Ubuntu and it did report back that 82 updates plus 1 security update were available, and so I'm not sure where it was getting that information if the internet was failing. [firefox didn't work and I couldn't update the programs]

    Thanks for everyones help and patience!

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    Re: monitor cuts off. mouse and keyboard lock up from live CDs

    oh, also I wanted to add that I did try the Recovery Mode option from Grub. The monitor goes to sleep with that option. Thanks again for everyones support!

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