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    Dead keys not working in Emacs [Lucid]

    Hi,

    I'm having trouble with dead keys in Emacs on Ubuntu Lucid and I'm at my wits' end. Using a standard Norwegian keyboard layout, and dead keys work fine in all Gnome applications. But Emacs just spits out messages about undefined keybindings when I use dead key combinations, for instance for tilde (~): “<dead_tilde> is undefined”. This is super-annoying, since I use Emacs a lot, and I need some way to fix this.

    What I've tried so far:
    • Loading the 'iso-transl' library in Emacs seemingly makes the dead keys work, but it's not consistent across modes (works for plain text, though), and I didn't need to do this before. Also, loading this breaks Emacs' latin-1-prefix input method, for some reason.
    • Fiddling with keyboard-preferences, iBus, im-switch xim/none/ibus, etc.
    • Removing ~/.xinput.d directory.
    • Fiddling with various environment variables: GTK_IM_METHOD, GTK_IM_MODULES, XMODIFIERS


    Of course, I'm testing this in Emacs started with '-Q' to elminiate problems that might be caused by my own rather extensive set of initialization files. Using dead keys in Emacs has never been a problem until I upgraded to Ubuntu Lucid.
    Last edited by oyvinst; May 4th, 2010 at 02:02 PM. Reason: s/XRESOURCES/XMODIFIERS/

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    Re: Dead keys not working in Emacs [Lucid]

    I'm having the exact same issue. Not being able to input characters like 'é' and especially '~' is indeed very annoying.

    I gave up for now and created workaround by adding a 'non-dead-key' extra keyboard layout (with checkbox 'layout per window' set to 'on'), so I can at least enter plain ' and " characters in emacs and have the dead keys in all other windows.

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    Re: Dead keys not working in Emacs [Lucid]

    Quote Originally Posted by mrb@hsdev.com View Post
    I'm having the exact same issue. Not being able to input characters like 'é' and especially '~' is indeed very annoying.

    I gave up for now and created workaround by adding a 'non-dead-key' extra keyboard layout (with checkbox 'layout per window' set to 'on'), so I can at least enter plain ' and " characters in emacs and have the dead keys in all other windows.
    Looks like I tracked down this bastard of an issue, but it took me some hours of work ! The whole story is explained in the follwing bug, which I just filed:
    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/575084

    Basically, Emacs doesn't properly understand the locale set by gnome-language-selector (which is stored in file ~/.dmrc and set upon login from GDM), and dead keys stop working as a result.

    The fix:
    Code:
    sed -i 's/utf8/UTF-8/' ~/.dmrc
    Then log out and back in. Let me know if it works for you, and I can set this thread to SOLVED.

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    Re: Dead keys not working in Emacs [Lucid]

    It's a bit different here.

    1. I originally had no ~/.dmrc -> problem remains
    2. ran gnome-language-sector
    ~/.dmrc does indeed get nl_NL.utf8
    3. logged out/in -> problem remains
    4. changed to nl_NL.UTF-8 -> problem remains
    5. Logged out, chose English as language on login -> SOLVED

    rechecked ~/.dmrc after that, and English locale is specified as 'en_US.utf8'

    So, the issue is perhaps a bit more subtle than your analysis?

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    Re: Dead keys not working in Emacs [Lucid]

    Quote Originally Posted by mrb@hsdev.com View Post
    It's a bit different here.

    1. I originally had no ~/.dmrc -> problem remains
    2. ran gnome-language-sector
    ~/.dmrc does indeed get nl_NL.utf8
    3. logged out/in -> problem remains
    4. changed to nl_NL.UTF-8 -> problem remains
    5. Logged out, chose English as language on login -> SOLVED

    rechecked ~/.dmrc after that, and English locale is specified as 'en_US.utf8'

    So, the issue is perhaps a bit more subtle than your analysis?
    Perhaps, yes, might even be locale-specific or a combo of keyboard input method and locale. I only tested this for Norwegian UTF-8 locale. But the important thing here is what your LANG variable eventually ends up containing. What does your LANG variable contain (not value in ~/.dmrc) when Emacs works ?

    Invoke Emacs with different alternatives for LANG and see which of them makes or breaks dead keys:
    Code:
    $ LANG=nl_NL.utf8 emacs
    $ LANG=nl_NL.UTF-8 emacs
    $ LANG=en_US.utf8 emacs
    $ LANG=en_US.UTF-8 emacs
    Would be interesting to know. Emacs might be buggy in interpreting locale in general. Or there might be issues with installed locales.
    Last edited by oyvinst; May 4th, 2010 at 02:08 PM. Reason: Fixed typo.

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    Re: Dead keys not working in Emacs [Lucid]

    Surprisingly, emacs does now work with all of them. It is definitely influenced by the language/translation packages and keyboard layouts.

    This has now turned into another problem for me: How to get the default keyboard layout to have dead keys, as on selection, the system throws an error at me: 'Error activating XKB configuration'

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