ubuntu 10.04 gnome3??

[xenosaga456]

so ya i know that ubuntu 10.04 comes with gnome 2 but what about gnome 3??? how do i use that

[pytheas22]

Gnome 3 is still in development, but you can test out Gnome Shell (the major component of Gnome 3) by first installing it with:

sudo apt-get install gnome-shell

and then typing:

gnome-shell --replace

to start it. Just remember that it's still not close to being finished, and you will likely have major problems.

[galdren]

so do you know how to rollback to the stable 2.30 when we're done trying it?

[3Miro]

so do you know how to rollback to the stable 2.30 when we're done trying it?

If you use compiz effects:

compiz --replace

If you don't use effects:

metacity --replace

Gnome 3, or Gnome-Shell, is simply another windows manager like compiz and metacity. If you don't use it (gnome-shell --replace) it doesn't do anything on your system.

[galdren]

haha that was easy..like it can't wait till the final release

[redkiwi]

gnome-shell is so cool
i love the simple handling and good looking design.

many thanks to all the programmers =D>


Is use this version:

Gnome Shell Testing PPA
https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/testing

sources.list
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ricotz/testing/ubuntu lucid main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ricotz/testing/ubuntu lucid main

permanent use
sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager
sudo cp /usr/share/applications/gnome-shell.desktop /etc/xdg/autostart

[Rubicon421]

So if you use Compiz and have desktop effects enabled then does that mean that you won't see the visual changes in 3.0? If you want to keep Compiz and desktop effects enabled would there be any benefit to upgrading to 3.0?

[pytheas22]

So if you use Compiz and have desktop effects enabled then does that mean that you won't see the visual changes in 3.0? If you want to keep Compiz and desktop effects enabled would there be any benefit to upgrading to 3.0?

Gnome-Shell doesn't use Compiz, because Gnome-Shell provides its own window manager (in Gnome 2.x, the window manager is a separate component; in Gnome 3 this will no longer be the case). However, Gnome-Shell should generally support the same kinds of effects that Compiz provides in Gnome 2.

So the answer to your question, as I understand it, is: don't worry, you can upgrade to Gnome 3 and still have desktop effects. The backend that's providing them will no longer be Compiz, but from the end-user's standpoint the behavior will essentially remain the same.

[Rubicon421]

@Pytheas22

Thanks for the quick reply. I understand your answer but is there any benefit to switching then? Will everything look the exactly the same or will the layout of Nautilus menus be improved and things like that? If it's all just backend improvements then what would I actually notice if I upgraded?

thanks again!

[pytheas22]

Thanks for the quick reply. I understand your answer but is there any benefit to switching then? Will everything look the exactly the same or will the layout of Nautilus menus be improved and things like that? If it's all just backend improvements then what would I actually notice if I upgraded?

Gnome 3 will look drastically different, because the "Shell" that you see when you type "gnome-shell --replace" is the new desktop. There will no longer be a Gnome panel, Applications/Places/System menu, etc. So it's definitely not just backend improvements; it's a total overhaul of the desktop. Whether or not you consider the changes a benefit is up to you.

I'm still waiting for Gnome 3 to come closer to completion before passing judgement, but I am kind of concerned about what I see so far. For example, you need a graphics card that supports 3D acceleration to use Gnome Shell, and one of my computers doesn't have that.

You can read more at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell