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  1. #11
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    Re: Not booting after install of 10.04

    Quote Originally Posted by fenriwolf View Post
    As i remember during the installation of my last attempt i went in there but what i could see it showed to install the boot loader on the HD, "/SDA"

    But will double check when i can attempt another try later this evening..

    Thanks for the info
    It said the same to me, only the USB stick was /dev/sda/ and the actual HDD was assigned /dev/sdb/

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    Re: Not booting after install of 10.04

    Hi,

    Running a Toshiba NB305-00F netbook.

    Downloaded 10.04 Ubuntu netbook remix. Installed it on a flash drive with UNETINBOOT.

    Installed fine.

    Partitioned fine. Hit advanced, made sure install was to the physical hard drive.

    Rebooted. Nothing, just hangs after bios. I can however get it to boot by reinserting my USB stick, boots then.

    Next tried changing the bootloader install location to /dev/sdb during install.

    Still not booting unless usb stick inserted.

    Tried running sudo update-grub (which I highly resent since I think in this day and age OS companies cannot expect end users to be fiddling with hacker or computer hobbyist stuff.)

    Seriously, I gotta be honest, this is completely unacceptable. Its 2010, and if linux ever does expect to break into the mainstream, it cant have stuff like no wifi, no boot or blank screens after install. Thats the truth, no more excuses.

    I just spent the last two weeks telling people how great Ubuntu is, and signing its praises. Now I wish I hadnt. Sorry if this is harsh or offends, but the truth hurts. If the top linux distro can't even make their LTS release install and boot properly, you guys don't have a chance in hades of gaining market share. Two wasted afternoons is what I got.

    The real kicker? Worked PERFECTLY FINE in Mint 8. So I know its possible to get it working. However, it should just work. This aint the days of slackware, 1992 and old school red hat. 2010 people, computing is the future, and end users simply cannot afford the downtime major mistakes like this cost. 7 installs and nothing yet? Only a complete fanboy could defend that. And trust me, I love linux, and ubuntu.

    Get it working ubuntu, just do it. Thats what you do when you screw up, you acdept it, fix it and try to prevent problems like this in the future. I Love your philosophy, love your software, but the cost in time to get it working makes those payoffs not worth it whatsoever. Youve heard it from the holy grail average end user, the type you are always trying to attract away from windows.

    Cheers
    Chris
    Last edited by Christof999; May 1st, 2010 at 07:43 PM.

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    Re: Not booting after install of 10.04

    Also, bluetooth is not working.

    Not that it matters much if the system wont even boot though.

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    Re: Not booting after install of 10.04

    I'm running 10.04 on an nb305 with everything working except the brightness keys. My version doesn't have bluetooth so I don't know about that.

    I'd be happy to help you try and sort through it if you have specific questions.

    P.S. A few nb305 types are hanging out here:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...ighlight=nb305

    We'd be happy to have you join us.
    Last edited by sobolosrios; May 1st, 2010 at 10:23 PM.

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    Re: Not booting after install of 10.04

    I just installed 10.04 desktop. It went through the install without any problems. After the install, it reboots and just doesn't start. My pc goes though post and just stops. I have a list of devices on my screen, "Verifying DMI Pool Data ........." and a blinking cursor. I guess its a grub issue. Any advise on solving this. I actually had the same problem when I first installed 9.10.

  6. #16
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    Re: Not booting after install of 10.04

    Hi there.
    I tried to upgrade through the manager and after it was finished (it took hours) my computer booted to the log in screen. I entered my name and P/W - then the screen went black. I could not get to the recovering page or anything, apart from the terminal.

    I lot of searching revealed that it was likely a problem with my ATI display (its a 4200 onboard the motherboard). I read somewhere that the drivers that come with Ubuntu do not like the ATI / Radeon / Catalyst drivers AND then I recalled some advice I saw in my frenzy of searching: totally remove the ATI / Radeon/ Catalyst drivers and package.

    This I then tried. Easier said than done.

    Most removal approaches leave artefacts and the system finds those, becomes confused and chucks a wobbly. This was happening. I did a listing of software in yhr terminal - I think the command was:
    <<dpkg -l '*fglrx*'>> and secondly <<locate fglrx>> - without the << and >>
    Yup - fglrx was still there.
    Finally, I found this page:
    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troublesho...thRadeonDriver
    It recommended an "aggressive" complete removal and this is achieved by:
    sudo /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh # (if it exists)
    sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
    sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-radeon

    I also found this page, which has similar advice.

    http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9202028

    However, remember: a standard uninstall won't remove enough of the ATI/Radeon/Catalyst drivers and you really have to go the whole hog - the "aggressive uninstall. When I did that, the machine booted OK and seems to work. The display is a bit odd - a little distorted, like 4:3 TV on 16:9.

    Were I doing the upgrade again (and when I have recovered my composure, I will do this I would cut Lucid to CD, back up all data then reformat disk and do a complete clean install. It would have been quicker.

    I have not tried reinstalling the latest ATI drvers, but will do that with the new install to see what happens.

    On that, last time (for Karmic) they would not install properly through synaptic but I had to download the packege and install through the command line. I think for the most recent drivers they install via the ATI site somehow.

    Given that the ATI drivers are known to cause problems, I do think that the Lucid installer should containn a sub-routine that removes totally the ATI drivers before installation upgrade commences and then it could give you the option to reinstall the latest ATI drivers.

    Tags for this post might be: ATI drivers black screen boot failure complete remove

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    Re: Not booting after install of 10.04

    Well, I'm not sure if this will help anyone here but I got mine to work. I have two hard drives on my system. I installed 10.04 to to my larger hard drive but it seems that grub had been placed on the second (smaller) drive. When reinstalling, I checked on the advanced option on the "install' page/screen and noticed that my while my OS was being installed on sdb, grub was being installed on sda. Anyway, I changed it to sdb and it works fine for now. I only just completed the install so time will tell how long it works for. If you have any other drive on your system, even if its a flash drive, make sure that grub isn't being installed there as opposed to the drive where your OS is being installed. You should also check your boot priority in bios to ensure that your first boot device is the drive where your OS is installed.

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    Re: Not booting after install of 10.04

    Quote Originally Posted by djwkd View Post
    For those with the netbook problems - put your model on there - could be a hardware problem (or could be the bootloader installed on the USB stick, as someone above said - which is more likely). Also try using XChat to connect to FreeNode, then join #ubuntu, and ask in there.

    Also - the two people above with 2 machines - are these netbooks or desktops/laptops? And are they 64bit or 32bit?

    Sorry for the slow reply I did not get a notification:

    They are both 64-bit and PCs... I am hoping I have solved one. I am currently completing the install after god knows how many attempts and having to re-install Windows too. What I did is remove other hard drives from the PC, and Just have the one.

    I still have an issue with the other machine. I do not have an issue reinstalling from scratch, but my concern is loosing my desktop (I had saved about 10 docs that I need and are not backed up), my Evolution emial info and my Firefox settings and bookmarks...... I am concerned that an install would wipe out existing folders and hence these files.

    Does anyone know how to find them. I can then copy them via the Vista install, re install 9.10 and then copy them back in to the new install...

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    Re: Not booting after install of 10.04

    Quote Originally Posted by Motjida View Post
    It said the same to me, only the USB stick was /dev/sda/ and the actual HDD was assigned /dev/sdb/
    Diden't have much time to do some more testing this weekend..but i have only one HD and could see that HD is assigned to SDA, so it places the Bootloader int he correct place.

    Had a chat with a collegue of mine and he suspected it to be that the HD partition is not set as active and there for i get a black screen with a blinking cursor, will have a chack later on tonight to see..

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    Re: Not booting after install of 10.04

    Quote Originally Posted by fenriwolf View Post
    Had a chat with a collegue of mine and he suspected it to be that the HD partition is not set as active and there for i get a black screen with a blinking cursor, will have a chack later on tonight to see..
    I have had this too on another PC I have been upgrading to 10.4 and having troubles...

    I found after a zillion rebuilds and play that:
    1. try an earlier image. I managed to get mine to boot by doing so.. I then found that it would boot in the current version

    2. I noticed that error messages, when I managed to get in to the logs were all related to graphics card config file... I changed the resolution by loading in recovery and choosing the option to load in basic mode... That said the screen was unreadable. I have had one or two graphics errors on both machines.

    There also seems to be a general issue of where and how the grub is saved and stored. If I look at my own experiences and compare with all those I have seen on the forum, they are all strikingly similar.

    I now have one machine that can only use Vista, but all my docs and apps are in Ubuntu... and it won't install or fix and another that will not let me open Vista! Getting very "upset" with this. Going off Ubuntu fast. Especially as noted NO ONE is helping.

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