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Thread: Petition to remove from the jail the Microsoft / National Labor Commitee Thread

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    Petition to remove from the jail the Microsoft / National Labor Commitee Thread

    I wish to respectfully petition the reinstatement of the Microsoft / National Labor Committee Thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1454573

    There are two issues here:

    1) Does this topic meet the community cafe guidelines?
    2) Is jailing the thread the appropriate response if it does not meet the guidelines?

    1) The case for the thread meeting the guidelines. The relevant guideline is
    Almost any non-tech-support topic may be discussed here. Discussions on religion and politics are not allowed, except for politics directly related to free and open source issues. Any topic or discussion that causes problems or drama will be closed. This area is intended for fun and community building, not arguments. Please take those elsewhere. Thanks!
    There is little doubt that the thread in question is political after all it deals with the National Labor Committee report the working conditions of the workers who assemble Microsoft mice among other products. The real question is if this issue is directly related to "free and open source issues"

    It is directly related for the following reasons:
    a) There would be no Free Libre Open Source Software (FLOSS) without computer hardware so the working conditions of those who make computer hardware are directly relevant, furthermore the mice in question are fully supported by FLOSS.
    b) The market dominance of Microsoft will ensure that any impact on Microsoft as a result on this report will have a direct significant impact on the FLOSS communities.
    c) Microsoft is a distributor of FLOSS including software copyrighted by the FSF.
    d) Hardware and Software are commonly sold as a package so any additional costs associated with paying the workers who assemble the mice a proper wage can easily be offset by replacing propriety operating systems and software by FLOSS.
    e) The thread in question refers to other companies that produce / sell hardware used with FLOSS and distribute FLOSS.

    2) The case against jailing a "political" thread follows directly feom the guideline: "Any topic or discussion that causes problems or drama will be closed" not jailed. This is a topic that has found it way into all the mainstream media, and by jailing it Ubuntu forums is in effect censoring it. thereby placing it self as a supporter of suppressing the awareness of the working conditions in question by average person.

    Thank you for your consideration

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    Re: Petition to remove from the jail the Microsoft / National Labor Commitee Thread

    From the Code of Conduct
    " Non-technical and non-3rd party project discussions belong in the Cafe.

    You agree that the web-master, administrators and moderators of this forum have the right to remove, edit, move or close any post, topic or thread at any time they see fit following the guidelines"

    For the Community Cafe

    "The Community Chat area is for lighthearted and enjoyable discussions, like you might find around a water cooler at work.

    Almost any non-tech-support topic may be discussed here. Discussions on religion and politics are not allowed, except for politics directly related to free and open source issues. Any topic or discussion that causes problems or drama will be closed. This area is intended for fun and community building, not arguments. Please take those elsewhere. Thanks!"

    Having regard to the above , the decision to jail the thread in question is correct and appropriate.
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