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    Re: Is there a REAL replacement for MS Project?

    so what really do people using exclusive linux or mac have done all these years? purchase MS project?

    what do real devs "really" use
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    Re: Is there a REAL replacement for MS Project?

    Quote Originally Posted by hambone79 View Post
    RationalPlan looks good except for the fact that it doesn't handle PERT charts.
    And do you really need PERT charts? Doesn't Gantt chart give you enough information? I mean what is it missing from a Gantt that you need in a PERT?

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    Re: Is there a REAL replacement for MS Project?

    Quote Originally Posted by IoanLucian View Post
    And do you really need PERT charts? Doesn't Gantt chart give you enough information? I mean what is it missing from a Gantt that you need in a PERT?
    To me the PERT chart is essential. I enter all of my tasks in the Gantt chart then use the PERT chart to organize the logic. Also, I find the PERT chart easier to understand than the Gantt for large projects.

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    Re: Is there a REAL replacement for MS Project?

    What I tend to find is my PM's usually issue PERT charts to management team as a nice visual overview of a project. They can also work with logic of task progression
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    Re: Is there a REAL replacement for MS Project?

    You can manage projects with web-based tools:

    planner publishes to html.
    http://getontracks.org
    http://37signals.com
    http://www.simile-widgets.org/timeline/
    google calendar (create a master project calendar, then share with participants--updated in realtime)
    Also check out the google labs plug-ins for gmail and calendar. Lots of interesting tools.
    http://jnintegration.sourceforge.net...er-to-ics.html

    Anyone with web browser can see project status. PM's and Team Leaders can be granted edit priviledges. Run a script once a day to update the various pieces, send out status emails/sms, etc.

    It requires a different mindset from 1990's (really 1960's)-style project management.

    MS Proj is nice, but expensive to set up for entire workgroup.
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    Re: Is there a REAL replacement for MS Project?

    Re critical patch calculations, I have such a calculator on my website:

    http://sporkforge.com/sched/critical_path.php

    You have to compose a text file to specify the tasks, but it's been in use for a couple of years without any complaints re accuracy.

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    Re: Is there a REAL replacement for MS Project?

    Large stickies for the PERT chart. Quicker than using a program. Use the above tool to find the critical path. (Very cool tool by the way, Sporkman)

    Once the PERT and critical path are initially done, then you can layout the tasks in planner for execution.

    I'm not sure of the value of PERT during execution. Except for viewgraph engineering.
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    Re: Is there a REAL replacement for MS Project?

    Quote Originally Posted by madjr View Post
    so what really do people using exclusive linux or mac have done all these years? purchase MS project?

    what do real devs "really" use
    Project management is way overrated. Most FOSS projects don't do planning. No, I'm not kidding. This is even true for very large FOSS projects like the Linux kernel, with thousands of developers.

    The few that do tend to use wikis. Or wiki/bug tracker/source control combinations like Trac.
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    Re: Is there a REAL replacement for MS Project?

    Quote Originally Posted by phrostbyte View Post
    Project management is way overrated. Most FOSS projects don't do planning. No, I'm not kidding. This is even true for very large FOSS projects like the Linux kernel, with thousands of developers.

    The few that do tend to use wikis. Or wiki/bug tracker/source control combinations like Trac.
    Care to provide details of how you "know" this?

    I have been involved in software development, some FOSS, for over 20 years and I can tell that, WITHOUT exception, all had a level of planning involved. Might be a spreadsheet with task to complete but that IS planning.

    This is even true for very large FOSS projects like the Linux kernel, with thousands of developers.
    Now you REALLY need to cite where this little gem comes from?
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    Re: Is there a REAL replacement for MS Project?

    Can't comment on FOSS projects. Have spent all of my career working in closed-source projects. But in those, EVERY project did formal Project Management.

    OK, so we're generally talking hundreds of team members, about 1/2 of which are developers, and the rest other engineers and PM personnel.

    But without PM tools, it would be virtually impossible to keep track of progress (or more generally, the lack thereof).

    And before anyone throws in their gold-plated Agile wrench, yes, we have those projects and we use PM tools on them, too.
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