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    Re: Lucid Button Positions

    I don't mind the change and I'm sure I'll get used to it, but I do hope they stick an easy way to change it in there somewhere. It couldn't hurt.
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    Re: Lucid Button Positions

    I don't like it either. I'm hoping they put it back as it was, since I think it's a better default. If not then I guess I'll just figure out how to change it right after I install 10.04.

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    Re: Lucid Button Positions

    There is no reason the buttons have to be on the right, other than the fact that most of us coming from Windows or most Linux distributions with the default settings are used to the buttons being on the right, but I'm struggling to see the benefit or the point of this change.

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    Re: Lucid Button Positions

    To be honest I like the new button layout.

    My only problem is that other people are going to whine about it non-stop. Just like people who first try OS X whine about it.

    People hate change.

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    Re: Lucid Button Positions

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldor View Post
    To be honest I like the new button layout.

    My only problem is that other people are going to whine about it non-stop. Just like people who first try OS X whine about it.

    People hate change.
    How do you think Mac users would feel if Apple moved the buttons to the right?

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    Re: Lucid Button Positions

    For those of us that hate and fear change, I fixed the buttons with a little gimp-work and file-renaming for the Ambiance theme. They're it the attached tarball.

    Should be able to just extract it and copy to /usr/share/themes and it'll over write the one thats all funky.
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    Re: Lucid Button Positions

    Window controls are overrated.

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    Re: Lucid Button Positions

    I think this change is a pretty nice one. I am getting used to it rather quickly.

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    Re: Lucid Button Positions

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldor View Post
    To be honest I like the new button layout.

    My only problem is that other people are going to whine about it non-stop. Just like people who first try OS X whine about it.

    People hate change.
    I think that the issue shouldn't be whether or not people can accurately be described as hating change, but whether or not the content of a given change is worth advancing despite resistance, and whether or not the resistance is a reasonable thing.

    In this case, I think any 'whining' is in fact reasonable.

    Here's why: I just don't see the point of changing the button layout. It seems needlessly confusing for most users. And what is being gained? It's an arbitrary design choice -- functionality is not lost, but the mechanism to trigger a function is unyoked from established practice.

    Sure, an option is great (and I favor a mechanism to give the option easily), but I don't want someone's "think[ing] different[ly]" foisted upon me. (And as others have pointed out, it's not even quite the OSX UI logic we're seeing.)

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    Re: Lucid Button Positions

    Quote Originally Posted by vevel View Post
    Sure, an option is great (and I favor a mechanism to give the option easily), but I don't want someone's "think[ing] different[ly]" foisted upon me. (And as others have pointed out, it's not even quite the OSX UI logic we're seeing.)
    The reason Mac's buttons work on the left is because of a global file menu. Ubuntu copied this difference without the reason for it. Not only that, but they did it wrong. Lucid isn't just an OS X clone it's a broken OS X clone.

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