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    The preferred tone and tenor in the Cafe

    I've been reading the last several weeks worth of threads in here and I noticed a trend that needs to be changed.

    For the most part, people are posting just for fun and/or informative threads. I like that.

    What I don't like is that once this happens a small group of people are choosing to make dismissive, rude, and sometime blatantly offensive responses. This derails threads, causes unnecessary conflict, and makes the overall atmosphere in the Cafe appear unfriendly and unwelcoming. That is unacceptable.

    I will be following things more closely in this section and asking others to do the same. I am asking staff to pay attention for the purposes of acting on issues they find. I am asking forum participants to please not respond to the sort of behavior I am describing, but to please report these sort of posts immediately.

    Finally, while it is likely that infractions will issued each and every time this behavior is exhibited, my preference is that infractions would be unnecessary and that all of our forum members simply choose to follow the Forum Code of Conduct and treat other members with the utmost respect. If that can not be done, I would rather escort mean, derogatory, and rude people out of our forum than allow the behavior to continue. A short term mess is worthwhile if it is in exchange for a more positive atmosphere in the long term.

    The Cafe has always been one of my favorite parts of the Ubuntu Forums, going back to my first posts in April 2005. I would like to see the friendly, playful, and welcoming atmosphere we started with return to being the norm. Please help me.
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    Re: The preferred tone and tenor in the Cafe

    I will be suggesting the following infraction scheme for staff to use in the Cafe starting now.

    First time offense: official warning or 1 point infraction, with a 30 day expiration.

    Second offense: 5 point infraction, with a 30 day expiration.

    Third offense: 5 point infraction, with a 30 day expiration (this will result in a 30 day visit to the moderation queue, where every post must be approved by a staff member before it appears in the forums).

    Fourth offense: user ban.

    For especially egregious offenses or members with previous infractions, this process may be accelerated.
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    Re: The preferred tone and tenor in the Cafe

    whats to stop someone just making a new account?

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    Nothing. We can ban the new accounts just as easily if the behavior is repeated...just as yours was.
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    Ah, I see you are back. That was quick. Goodbye, again.
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    Re: The preferred tone and tenor in the Cafe

    Quote Originally Posted by matthew View Post
    I've been reading the last several weeks worth of threads in here and I noticed a trend that needs to be changed.

    For the most part, people are posting just for fun and/or informative threads. I like that.

    What I don't like is that once this happens a small group of people are choosing to make dismissive, rude, and sometime blatantly offensive responses. This derails threads, causes unnecessary conflict, and makes the overall atmosphere in the Cafe appear unfriendly and unwelcoming. That is unacceptable.

    I will be following things more closely in this section and asking others to do the same. I am asking staff to pay attention for the purposes of acting on issues they find. I am asking forum participants to please not respond to the sort of behavior I am describing, but to please report these sort of posts immediately.

    Finally, while it is likely that infractions will issued each and every time this behavior is exhibited, my preference is that infractions would be unnecessary and that all of our forum members simply choose to follow the Forum Code of Conduct and treat other members with the utmost respect. If that can not be done, I would rather escort mean, derogatory, and rude people out of our forum than allow the behavior to continue. A short term mess is worthwhile if it is in exchange for a more positive atmosphere in the long term.

    The Cafe has always been one of my favorite parts of the Ubuntu Forums, going back to my first posts in April 2005. I would like to see the friendly, playful, and welcoming atmosphere we started with return to being the norm. Please help me.
    I agree. Even though I have had some 1-point infractions on other things myself, such as posting cracks on the forums, I have had just as much harassment. Case in point: I ask users to stop calling me names other than my real one, and even created a new user account because of it, and they still call me names on purpose and for spite.

    The Cafe is also my favorite part of the forums, and coming in second is Lucid Lynx Testing and Discussion. However, the Cafe is a real gift, and I embrace it.

    I will try to report any of this behavior to you Mods, if I see any rude, dismissive, and/or blatantly offensive responses to informative Cafe threads. Thank you for pointing this out to me.

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    Re: The preferred tone and tenor in the Cafe

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny_Strawn View Post
    I will try to report any of this behavior to you Mods, if I see any rude, dismissive, and/or blatantly offensive responses to informative Cafe threads.
    Thank you. This will be helpful.
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    Re: The preferred tone and tenor in the Cafe

    Quote Originally Posted by matthew View Post
    Ah, I see you are back. That was quick. Goodbye, again.

    quick? not really.

    and sorry "sheriff", or should that be dictator. but no it shouldnt, you arent one of the bad mods.

    its a shame you refuse to look closer to home about problems, instead of blaming everyone else.

    but denial is easier than reality huh?

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    Re: The preferred tone and tenor in the Cafe

    bye
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    Re: The preferred tone and tenor in the Cafe

    I am always watching for posts that have the potential to offend someone. Or just general spam.

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