Linux comparisons

[MooPi]

congrats, you have evolved from preaching linux to preaching anti-zealotry. Only a few more steps to go.

So what are the other steps and where are they going ?

[Hwæt]

So what are the other steps

Setting up a shrine to Bill Gates in his closet.

and where are they going ?

backwards.

[koenn]

So what are the other steps and where are they going ?

the obvious next step would be: realizing that it is the actual preaching that puts people off.

on other step might be: learning that insulting people is not effective in changing those people's behavior.

[oldos2er]

Baloney is a perfectly cromulent word.

[mickie.kext]

to the OP

Ubuntu has its flaws, but starting crusade against linux and free software and calling people <snip> just because you do not like Ubuntu is litle... well stupid. You have right to use any distro you like (even including Windows) but leave people alone. If they want to pursue their dream, leave them be. Calling them <snip> just inspire more zealous behavior and make more polarization.


But maybe that is what you want because I already see your name among cursed ones. You are trying to preach neutrality and failing to see that you are not neutral.


PS: I also like signature but it say Slackware instead of Debian. Everyone can configure Debian.

[RiceMonster]

Linux is a kernel, GNU is the operating system.

Nope, Linux is the kernel, GNU is the user-land. You can't have an OS without a kernel, and therefore GNU is not an OS. The HURD doesn't count.

[MooPi]

the obvious next step would be: realizing that it is the actual preaching that puts people off.

on other step might be: learning that insulting people is not effective in changing those people's behavior.

Sounds like you've incriminated yourself for past behavior. I don't insult people because they use Macintosh or Microsoft software. I just hold my nose and avert my eyes
Yeah insulting doesn't get you very far. I try to live by example, hoping to influence others by virtuous behavior and good deeds. If I'm misbehaving I can only hope no one noticed.

[jdrodrig]

I know this will be put in "Recurring Discussions" because nobody wants the truth, but Linux and the Community of <snip> that follow it are not unlike wiley coyote. they can make a full blast run off of a cliff by installing a linux operating system, but until they look down and see the missing foundation around them they never fall.
all the best
#11u-max

One could argue that a key missing ingredient is "quantitative measures" on which one could argue the superiority of an OS over other. For example, typical IBM AIX/Power and Microsoft Server product always talk about TCO and downtime measures.

I think we should make an effort to quantify our "preaching" and compare it to other people own measurements of superiority.

For example, I always find it very annoying people that do not go past the "well, at least Ubuntu is free..", yes, but if the tool you need to perform your day-to-day tasks is not available in this platform, then, sorry to tell you my friend, but Ubuntu's cost for you is infinite.

[XubuRoxMySox]

Wow. An anti-zealot zealot.

This calls for an anti-protest. I think I'll make a sign that says, "God hates protest signs!"

-Robin

[Name change]

To summarise this thread in one sentence: don't preach anti-zealotry, mention it.
But I agree with OP.