I'm not talking about sacrificing freedom here. This is just a deviation of the original concept of how it COULD be implemented in Ubuntu's possible adoption of optional CNR services. As stated, the CNR aspect would have its own section, with a disclaimer/explaination regarding the services offered. It would not be promoting the use of those services, nor including the closed source CNR client... the client itself would not be CNR, and would be open, it would (likely) download some additional libraries to enable CNR functionality for those who desired it, and as stated, would inform the user that the services in question are OPTIONAL if they desire to use them, but are not manditory.
How is allowing more choice to the use out of box affecting future benefit??? It is the individuals choice whether or not to implement the services, and the client would still WORK without them.... for free and with enhanced content.
It's not an issue of the philosophy behind Ubuntu... its an issue of finding a way for clean integration of additional services for those who desire them, with the knowledge that some of those services are not 'free' as in speech or as in beer... In the end... it would still be my choice, or yours, as to whether or not to use the service.. (personally, I wouldn't use 'enhanced' subscription services... I don't need nor want them, but there are many who would/do)
Personally, I'd just like to see better content in package management for new users (screenies, etc... the majority of users actually need stuff like that to help them decide... oddly enough)
I just think... from a polish point of view... and in terms of making Ubuntu feel more professional, that the option to enable such a service by default, without the need to be 'closed' about it, or by ramming it down a users throat, but instead giving them an informed option, is possible (more than possible... it can literally be done) without infringing on the ubuntu philosophy or needing any type of 'sacrifice'..
Remember... above all, the Ubuntu philosopy is about the freedom of choice... And in the end, it is we, the user, that decides what we do with our system... and not the community or some lofty ideal...
After all, you can look at it this way... we have proprietary drivers, restricted kernel modules, even Suns JRE and other non-free, closed source items in the repos as well as in a default install. By your logic... aren't those a 'sacrifice' for short term gain and ease of use?? If so, should they not be removed to 'purify' the distro for future benefit???
If Ubuntu ever did that... it would burn and sink FAST...
Just my random thoughts...
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