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    Why is it so hard to find a 64bit download??

    I'm having hard drive issues, so as a last resort, I thought it would be best to have an Ubuntu CD, just in case I need to go the re-install route. Great, onto Ubuntu.com to get an image...

    Why on earth, when 64bit is supposed to be the way forward, did I have to resort to Google to find a 64bit iso image? I eventually ended up at http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/ - surely this is just hindering the take-up, and in turn, development of the AMD64 platform???


    ... or should I take this as a none-too-subtle hint that I should go back to 32bit?

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    Re: Why is it so hard to find a 64bit download??

    No, I'd stay with 64 bit. You can find it on http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download by clicking on Alternative download options, including Ubuntu installer for Windows

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    Re: Why is it so hard to find a 64bit download??

    This is making an elephant out of a fly. Use what fits you best and don't invent hidden meanings where there aren't any.

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    Re: Why is it so hard to find a 64bit download??

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUR0M4NCER View Post
    Why on earth, when 64bit is supposed to be the way forward, did I have to resort to Google to find a 64bit iso image?
    As wojox said:
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    You can find it on http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download by clicking on Alternative download options, including Ubuntu installer for Windows
    It's just a matter of reading carefully...
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    Re: Why is it so hard to find a 64bit download??

    Quote Originally Posted by arubislander View Post
    As wojox said:


    It's just a matter of reading carefully...
    Meh, it is still a good question. Odds are that more people than not, own 64bit machines....that they choose to run software optimized for CPUs made in 1985.

    Of course why Ubuntu even optimizes their 32bit pcakages for 30 year old CPUs, that Ubuntu is not officially supported to even run on, is another good question.
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    Re: Why is it so hard to find a 64bit download??

    Quote Originally Posted by Skripka View Post
    Meh, it is still a good question. Odds are that more people than not, own 64bit machines....that they choose to run software optimized for CPUs made in 1985.

    Of course why Ubuntu even optimizes their 32bit pcakages for 30 year old CPUs, that Ubuntu is not officially supported to even run on, is another good question.
    I don't think Ubuntu does that. Can you name a 30 years old CPU to illustrate that.

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    Re: Why is it so hard to find a 64bit download??

    Quote Originally Posted by mikewhatever View Post
    I don't think Ubuntu does that. Can you name a 30 years old CPU to illustrate that.
    The i386 spec dates back to 1985 grasshopper. Sue me for rounding 25 to 30

    For perspective, the amd64 spec dates only to 2003-with AMD Opteron being the 1st.
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    Re: Why is it so hard to find a 64bit download??

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUR0M4NCER View Post
    ... or should I take this as a none-too-subtle hint that I should go back to 32bit?
    Of course not, the link to the alternatives is quite visible and plain. You don't want the 32 bit ? then here's some more links.... click on me.

    I can only conclude that the change which I think was only made when 9.10 came out, was to prevent users obtaining the 64 bit by mistake and not being able to install it on 32 bit machines, or ending up with 64 bit without realising the implications (which are few, imho) ..

    I think the link is quite obvious, however judging by the number of threads that come up on this topic, many find it difficult to navigate, including some self proclaimed computer pros.

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    Re: Why is it so hard to find a 64bit download??

    Quote Originally Posted by Skripka View Post
    Meh, it is still a good question. Odds are that more people than not, own 64bit machines....that they choose to run software optimized for CPUs made in 1985.

    Of course why Ubuntu even optimizes their 32bit pcakages for 30 year old CPUs, that Ubuntu is not officially supported to even run on, is another good question.
    Slightly wrong. Like you said, i386 came out in 1985....that is 25 years. i286 came out in 1982, so 'optomisied for a 30 year old CPU' would be 8086. I dont think that its optomised for i386 anyway....

    i386 is just the minimum. If you have a newer CPU it does use the instruction sets for that CPU (within 32bit, it wont automatically use x86_64).

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    Re: Why is it so hard to find a 64bit download??

    Quote Originally Posted by cascade9 View Post
    Slightly wrong. Like you said, i386 came out in 1985....that is 25 years. i286 came out in 1982, so 'optomisied for a 30 year old CPU' would be 8086. I dont think that its optomised for i386 anyway....

    i386 is just the minimum. If you have a newer CPU it does use the instruction sets for that CPU (within 32bit, it wont automatically use x86_64).
    As I said, I rounded. Big deal, the difference in 25 years obsolete and 30 years obsolete ain't that big. Even then, Ubuntu is not officially supported to run on i386 hardware anyway....which raises the question of why they optimize for it....especially in light of the fact that most people have cellphones with more computing power than an i386 machine

    The question why more folks choose to run 32bit Ubuntu on 64bit capable systems is a strange one...especially given the performance hits:

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...u_32_pae&num=1
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