Bye Bye GIMP!

[joey-elijah]

So the plan, whilst obviously not 100% final, is to ditch the GIMP from Lucid.

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/11/gimp-to-be-removed-lucid.html

I think this is a good call - it uses space, the average user never uses it to its potential and could easily do what they need to in other applications.

I'd still rather we got rid of F-Spot, too though. It's a lame exucse of a photo manager...

Not sold on PiTiVi as the best choice of video editor. The tone of the meeting about default apps was very heavily decided in favour of trying pitivi, and OpenShot wasn't seriously considered despite the fact it's, imo at least, the better of the two.

[CoreyB.]

I know everyone doesn't have a DVD drive, but when is it time to start considering a medium larger than a CD. I don't want to have to sacrifice features because they won't fit on a CD.

[amauk]

This is just from the LiveCD / default install
Gimp will (obviously) still be in the repos

I think it's a good call
I don't see the need for specialist apps in the default install

@CoreyB
the devs have said quite a few times that keeping the <700Mb limit is good for maintaining focus and priorities
It's less about CD vs. DVD, and more about not overloading a default install

[emigrant]

i too like to see gimp gone. by no way gimp can compete with PS.
anyway a better graphical editor is needed with the distro.

[exploder]

First it was OpenOffice Base, now Gimp... This is a step backwards. Gimp is the Linux equivalent of Photoshop and is an important feature in my opinion.

[qwerty800]

Well, it's a shock, I admit, but...

As long at it's kept as a "one-click install"...

[Arup]

Gimp can do what PS can and you just have to know how. However its a good move to save space and one can always install it from the repos.

[lonniehenry]

I use Gimp, however the average user doesn't. Given that it will continue to be available to everyone, dropping it from the default will free up space on the cd. Keeping the distro to a cd in size will help force the devs to keep streamlining the os. If the default distro was allowed to grow to a dvd size, the chance for bloating would increase.

The framework limiting the distro to a cd has worked in the past to keep Ubuntu to a minimum hardware requirements that most computers can handle - even low powered older machines.

[gnomeuser]

I always wondered why including a complicated photoshop type application by default is considered such a good idea.

Your average user might want to touch up apps, turn them into calendars or christmas cards. These tasks could easily fit in your photo management application. GIMP really is too powerful for this task, it's a professional quality graphics application - people who need it can install it and know how to get it. We could even extend the software center to present valuable extra apps or something like a "creativity add on" which could install the best of breed such apps like blender, gimp and so on along perhaps with some instructional videos and sample content created with the tools.

[emigrant]

IMHO gimp lacks a whole menu of PS features:
layer blending options (i.e what i remember for now>>)

• inner glow
• outer glow
• drop shadow
• emboss
• inner shadow
• stroke ( i don't know how to apply border in GIMP, if i apply border it gets applied for the whole page rather than for the layer)

this is only a few from one menu though i don't know if there is an alternate way to achieve those effects in gimp.