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    Re: karmic: creative x-fi xtreme (CA0110-IBG) -no sound with spdif (optic digital IEC

    Quote Originally Posted by siikah View Post
    I've been messing with this on and off for months, and that f**k**g card just won't WORK! If anyone has, please give us a hint!

    Yeah, the final message at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu...question/63947 is ******* me off. It doesn't help
    heh, dont get pissed, the funny thing is, if you install 9.04 and install the xfi drivers your self it does work. but 9.10 was supposed to have it build in.
    from what i understand, the problem is the xfi driver that is build in the 2.6.31.* kernel. so if you install and older version of the kernel (2.6.28.*) and then install the xfi driver manually it suppose to work.

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    Re: karmic: creative x-fi xtreme (CA0110-IBG) -no sound with spdif (optic digital IEC

    Quote Originally Posted by Webe12 View Post
    I have no sound from my x-fi extreme either using alsa. But I found that if I use OSS, I do get sound working to a point. Not everything works. But I can play audio and most of my videos appear to work. Maybe it will work for you.
    Thanks for the tip, Webe12. I have been studying this today and will give it a try as soon as I get a chance. For the possible benefit of others I will briefly summarize what I have found.

    1. The Creative X-Fi Xtreme does not use the same chipset as the rest of the X-Fi family. For this reason, solutions that work for other X-Fi cards may not work with the Xtreme. Perhaps that explains why the Xtreme doesn't work with Karmic even though it has been stated that the X-Fi is now supported? Here is a reference:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-fi#X-Fi_Xtreme_Audio


    2. Here is the Ubuntu Community Document describing how to set up OSS (Webe12, is this how you did it?):

    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound


    3. Here is a list of equipment supported by OSS. Note that the only X-FI listed is an "Early Beta," but that the Audigy IS listed. (Wikipedia claims that the Xtreme is really a rebranded Audigy.):

    http://mercurial.opensound.com/?raw-...devlists/Linux


    4. The third reference (above) mentions NVIDIA High Definition Audio. This is of particular interest to me since I have NVIDIA graphics with HDMI output. I would think that this would give me a second option for sound output, but the NVIDIA card is not detected by Ubuntu at all. Perhaps switching to OSS will change that?


    5. Finally, as a workaround I dug out a cheap ($10) USB sound card that I had bought a while ago. (It is about the size of a small thumbdrive.) With it plugged in to a USB port and my powered speakers plugged in to that, at least I have sound for now.

    Hope this is of use to some of you.

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    Re: karmic: creative x-fi xtreme (CA0110-IBG) -no sound with spdif (optic digital IEC

    I'm one step closer....

    I followed the Ubuntu Community Documentation that I listed in #2 in my previous post. I'm still not getting any sound out yet, but:

    1. Audio applications will now play, rather than freeze.

    2. I can open up the OSS mixer panel and I get sound level indications (green - yellow - red bars) corresponding to the audio level. The mixer panel shows sliders for all of the audio input and output jacks.

    3. When I installed OSS it correctly detected and identified my sound card (Creative X-FI Xtreme). However, in the Multimedia System Selector it still indicates "Device:" as Unsupported, even though OSS is selected as the plugin.

    I'm going back over the procedure to see if I missed anything.

    UPDATE --

    I ran sudo soundoff then sudo soundon, and then was able to get output when I ran osstest. Still no output from Totem, but I'm sure there is a way. Lost of troubleshooting and configuring documentation available.

    I've had enough for today, but will try to attach this again tomorrow.
    Last edited by A. J. Rimmer; December 8th, 2009 at 11:39 PM.

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    Re: karmic: creative x-fi xtreme (CA0110-IBG) -no sound with spdif (optic digital IEC

    Quote Originally Posted by A. J. Rimmer View Post
    I'm one step closer....

    I followed the Ubuntu Community Documentation that I listed in #2 in my previous post. I'm still not getting any sound out yet, but:

    1. Audio applications will now play, rather than freeze.

    2. I can open up the OSS mixer panel and I get sound level indications (green - yellow - red bars) corresponding to the audio level. The mixer panel shows sliders for all of the audio input and output jacks.

    3. When I installed OSS it correctly detected and identified my sound card (Creative X-FI Xtreme). However, in the Multimedia System Selector it still indicates "Device:" as Unsupported, even though OSS is selected as the plugin.

    I'm going back over the procedure to see if I missed anything.

    UPDATE --

    I ran sudo soundoff then sudo soundon, and then was able to get output when I ran osstest. Still no output from Totem, but I'm sure there is a way. Lost of troubleshooting and configuring documentation available.

    I've had enough for today, but will try to attach this again tomorrow.
    if you changed to OSS you probebly need to change in " gstreamer-properties" in order to hear totem, try VLC.

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    Re: karmic: creative x-fi xtreme (CA0110-IBG) -no sound with spdif (optic digital IEC

    Quote Originally Posted by adamruss View Post
    if you changed to OSS you probebly need to change in " gstreamer-properties" in order to hear totem, try VLC.
    Thanks for the suggestion. When I run gstreamer-properties I just get the Multimedia System Selector box, where I get the "Unsupported" indication (see #3 in my post above). At least I think that's what's happening -- I just rebooted into Windows before I got your message so I can't double check.

    Anyway, I will try to apply your suggestion tomorrow and also give VLC a try. I did try Flash video briefly and got no sound. I'm sure I can get this sorted out one way or another; so far everything looks as expected except the gstreamer-properties box. System sounds are not a concern for me, but ultimately I hope to get MythTV running on this box (I have had pretty good luck with MythTV on other installations.)

    More tomorrow, I hope!

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    Re: karmic: creative x-fi xtreme (CA0110-IBG) -no sound with spdif (optic digital IEC

    I'm just going to wait for it to be fixed. Apparently, it is in the pipeline.
    http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.alsa.devel/69098

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    Re: karmic: creative x-fi xtreme (CA0110-IBG) -no sound with spdif (optic digital IEC

    Great
    Maybe it finaly works in 10.04, or am I hoping too mutch?
    "Trying is the first step towards failure"
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    Re: karmic: creative x-fi xtreme (CA0110-IBG) -no sound with spdif (optic digital IEC

    Progress report:

    Well, I seem to have sound about half the time. osstest always gives me sound, both from my rear and front "green" jack.

    Using the test function in the Multimedia Systems Selector (also known as gstreamer-properties) gives a test tone on roughly half the attempts.

    Trying to play something with Totem results in success maybe less than half the time.

    Still pondering; out of time and energy for tonight.

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    OK, I think I have this just about solved. To recap,

    1. I followed these instructions for setting up OSS:

    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound

    2. I experienced seemingly random behavior with sound; sometimes it was there and sometimes not.

    3. Today I tried editing various settings in:

    /usr/lib/oss/conf/osscore.conf

    Nothing seemed to help much until I uncommented vmix_disabled and changed its value from 0 to 1:

    vmix_disabled=1

    4. Sound now works consistently to a limited degree. I'm not getting sound from things like Frozen Bubble, but I am getting sound from Totem. Flash video won't play in Firefox (not just no audio but won't play at all) and I just tried to play an Ogg video file from Linux Journal in the browser and it won't play. However, when I downloaded the .ogv file then it did play (with sound).

    5. This site has configuration information for specific applications; guess I will work through that next:

    http://www.opensound.com/wiki/index....ions_for_OSSv4

    Hope you guys are having some luck with your systems.

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    Lightbulb Re: karmic: creative x-fi xtreme (CA0110-IBG) -no sound with spdif (optic digital IEC

    The "Worider" trick worked for me !!!

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10346176

    Good luck , Kuoi

    BTW : It's working for the analog output , I didn't tried digital , and won't try now !
    I have sound , ... I use digital only in wdos

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