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  1. #11
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    Re: Increasing screen resolution

    Sorry to report that I've reached the "give up" point. As I salvage bits from old desktop PCs, I have several old video cards. I've tried 9.04 and 9.10 with Voodoo3 3dfx, NVIDIA RIVA TNT2, NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 100/200, and the motherboard S3 ProSavage8 chip. Everything works in part, but they all are flawed in some way. I get instant total freezes, automatic reboots of the X server, etc etc etc.

    The PC itself is not, on paper, too bad: 2x512MB DRAM, 1.7GHz P4, and it has multipassed Memtest86+. But it doesn't owe me anything - it was all free as in $$s!

    Warning: some of the below might be in error; I confess I did not take notes!

    I never got the TNT2 NVIDIA drivers to run properly. It is easier with 9.04 because that card does seem to need the 71 package, which seemingly has been dropped from the 9.10 distro - 96 does NOT support that card. Using 9.10 and the NVIDIA site driver, I got:

    ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display

    and so just the single "nvidia-settings Configuration" option on the left of their tool.

    Using 9.10 and the GeForce2 card, and therefore the 96 package I got the whole nvidia tool options, and DID correctly discover the monitor, and DID offer more than 1024x786 resolution, but using the tool to set eg 1280x1024x60Hz usually froze everything.

    So, sadly, I've run out of patience, incentive, and lack the skills and knowledge to take this any further, and am somewhat wary of U9.10 now anyway. There have been mumblings in the press that it might be sensible to wait a month or so until enough fixes have hit the repository to make it as solid as 9.04 now seems to be. I have used 9.04 since it was released and have had almost no issues with it at all.

    Good luck with your attempts though!

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    Re: Increasing screen resolution

    I had to come up with a workaround to get my geforce 4 to go above 800x600 in jaunty or karmic.
    This describes my plight.
    BTW, I had to get this all working before I could enable the proprietary driver. Before generating a proper xorg.conf I was limited to 640x480 with the proprietary driver and "auto-detect"
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    A suggestion for you...dump the "us vs. them" attitude ...

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    Re: Increasing screen resolution

    Hi ST3ALTHPSYCH0,

    Thanks for your reply.

    Like njsharp, I'm just about to give up. It's so hard and frustrating to get it to work.

    Anyway, I've read the link to your post and on running "gksudo nautilus", I'm getting the
    following errors :

    Initializing nautilus-gdu extension

    ** (nautilus:1664): WARNING **: No marshaller for signature of signal 'UploadFinished'

    ** (nautilus:1664): WARNING **: No marshaller for signature of signal 'DownloadFinished'

    ** (nautilus:1664): WARNING **: No marshaller for signature of signal 'ShareCreateError'
    Nautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error No such file or directory
    Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing.

    Nautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error No such file or directory
    Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing.


    --- Hash table keys for warning below:
    --> inode/directory
    --> root
    --> l2049
    Shutting down nautilus-gdu extension

    (nautilus:1664): Eel-WARNING **: "unique eel_ref_str" hash table still has 3 elements at quit time (keys above)

    (nautilus:1664): Eel-WARNING **: "nautilus-directory.c: directories" hash table still has 4 elements at quit time

    I'm not able to proceed as the xorg.conf wasn't even created.

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    Re: Increasing screen resolution

    To install properly it is
    System > Administration > "Hardware Drivers"

    It was renamed from restricted drivers but most people instinctively write the old name.
    Running Linux From Scratch for over 7 and a half years on my desktop
    Running Ubuntu on my laptop since I bought it

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    Re: Increasing screen resolution

    That was in an attempt to not have to guess where you put the file.
    Try this. Run Screens and Graphics from the 8.04 Live CD. Copy the xorg.conf from the /etc/X11/ directory on the live CD and put it anywhere on your harddrive.
    Reboot (w/ no live CD) and move the xorg.conf to your desktop.
    Open a terminal
    Code:
    cd Desktop
    
    sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.works
    
    sudo mv xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf
    Reboot

    Someone may come across this who can help you manually configure an xorg.conf, but this is the only way I was able to generate a working example.
    Good luck!
    Resolution help | Mac4Lin install guide|Fuduntu
    Quote Originally Posted by kamaboko View Post
    A suggestion for you...dump the "us vs. them" attitude ...

  6. #16
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    Re: Increasing screen resolution

    Ok managed to generate the xorg.conf using "sudo X -configure".

    Here's how it looks like :

    Code:
    Section "ServerLayout"
    	Identifier     "X.org Configured"
    	Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    	Screen      1  "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0"
    	InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
    	InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Files"
    	ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
    	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
    	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
    	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
    	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
    	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
    	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
    	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
    	FontPath     "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
    	FontPath     "built-ins"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Module"
    	Load  "dri2"
    	Load  "dri"
    	Load  "glx"
    	Load  "dbe"
    	Load  "record"
    	Load  "extmod"
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
    	Identifier  "Keyboard0"
    	Driver      "kbd"
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
    	Identifier  "Mouse0"
    	Driver      "mouse"
    	Option	    "Protocol" "auto"
    	Option	    "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    	Option	    "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Monitor"
    	Identifier   "Monitor0"
    	VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
    	ModelName    "Monitor Model"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Monitor"
    	Identifier   "Monitor1"
    	VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
    	ModelName    "Monitor Model"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Device"
            ### Available Driver options are:-
            ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
            ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
            ### [arg]: arg optional
            #Option     "SWcursor"           	# [<bool>]
            #Option     "HWcursor"           	# [<bool>]
            #Option     "NoAccel"            	# [<bool>]
            #Option     "ShadowFB"           	# [<bool>]
            #Option     "UseFBDev"           	# [<bool>]
            #Option     "Rotate"             	# [<str>]
            #Option     "VideoKey"           	# <i>
            #Option     "FlatPanel"          	# [<bool>]
            #Option     "FPDither"           	# [<bool>]
            #Option     "CrtcNumber"         	# <i>
            #Option     "FPScale"            	# [<bool>]
            #Option     "FPTweak"            	# <i>
            #Option     "DualHead"           	# [<bool>]
    	Identifier  "Card0"
    	Driver      "nv"
    	VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
    	BoardName   "NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro]"
    	BusID       "PCI:1:8:0"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Device"
            ### Available Driver options are:-
            ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
            ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
            ### [arg]: arg optional
            #Option     "NoAccel"            	# [<bool>]
            #Option     "SWcursor"           	# [<bool>]
            #Option     "ColorKey"           	# <i>
            #Option     "CacheLines"         	# <i>
            #Option     "Dac6Bit"            	# [<bool>]
            #Option     "DRI"                	# [<bool>]
            #Option     "NoDDC"              	# [<bool>]
            #Option     "ShowCache"          	# [<bool>]
            #Option     "XvMCSurfaces"       	# <i>
            #Option     "PageFlip"           	# [<bool>]
    	Identifier  "Card1"
    	Driver      "intel"
    	VendorName  "Intel Corporation"
    	BoardName   "82865G Integrated Graphics Controller"
    	BusID       "PCI:0:2:0"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Screen"
    	Identifier "Screen0"
    	Device     "Card0"
    	Monitor    "Monitor0"
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Viewport   0 0
    		Depth     1
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Viewport   0 0
    		Depth     4
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Viewport   0 0
    		Depth     8
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Viewport   0 0
    		Depth     15
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Viewport   0 0
    		Depth     16
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Viewport   0 0
    		Depth     24
    	EndSubSection
    EndSection
    
    Section "Screen"
    	Identifier "Screen1"
    	Device     "Card1"
    	Monitor    "Monitor1"
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Viewport   0 0
    		Depth     1
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Viewport   0 0
    		Depth     4
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Viewport   0 0
    		Depth     8
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Viewport   0 0
    		Depth     15
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Viewport   0 0
    		Depth     16
    	EndSubSection
    	SubSection "Display"
    		Viewport   0 0
    		Depth     24
    	EndSubSection
    EndSection
    Now, how should I start adding the resolution parts to it?

    If configuring xorg.conf works (that's a BIG IF), does it mean that I no longer need to go to System -> Preferences -> Display to change the resolution as I can never see anything more than 800x600 there?

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    Re: Increasing screen resolution

    If you can get a proper xorg.conf generated, you will still use that dialog, but it will have more options.... that is, unless you're using proprietary drivers. Then, you would use the vendor's config tool (for nvidia it's System>administration> Nvidia x server settings).

    Alright, to generate from that xorg, you will need to run this command in terminal:
    Code:
    cvt x y z
    where x= horizontal resolution
    y=vertical resolution
    and z=refresh rate (e.g. 1280 1024 60 would be 1280x1024 at 60 Hz refresh)

    This will generate a modeline which you need to cut and paste in the monitor section under model name.
    For example:
    Code:
    Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "Monitor0"
        VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
        ModelName    "Monitor Model"
    
    Modeline "1280x1024_60.00"  109.00  1280 1368 1496 1712  1024 1027 1034 1063 -hsync +vsync
    
    
    EndSection
    Next you will need to delete all but one subsection under screen. In the remaining subsection change depth to the color depth you want. Delete the viewport line. add a line that says modes and add all the mode you added above.
    for example:
    Code:
    modes                "1280x1024@60" "1024x768@60"
    You only need one monitor and one scrren section unless you're running dual monitors.

    Backup your xorg.conf before attempting anything.

    DISCLAIMER:
    I used the tool from the 8.04 live CD to generate my xorg.conf file. I am trying to use that file (that works on my machine) to get your file to the point that you can get the resolutions you want. However, I was not successful in generating a working example myself, only minor editing to my working example. Be prepared that this solution I just offered may not work.

    BTW, The source of your errors with "gksudo nautilus" stems from the fact that it needs to be run from the run dialog, not terminal.
    Good luck.

    Here's some pointers from someone who does know how to properly edit xorg.conf.
    Last edited by ST3ALTHPSYCH0; November 11th, 2009 at 05:21 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamaboko View Post
    A suggestion for you...dump the "us vs. them" attitude ...

  8. #18
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    Re: Increasing screen resolution

    Hi ST3ALTHPSYCH0,

    Just tried out your suggestion and didn't work. I expected it.

    Thanks for your effort ! It's greatly appreciated !

    At least now I know more about the xorg config file.

    I'm surrendering on this issue.

    Cheers !

  9. #19
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    Re: Increasing screen resolution

    I have had the same problem with a more recent nvidia card (geforce 8700). Here is the link, you might find some of the advice I was given useful to you. It ended with partial success, I'm running kde through gdm, the icon text is on top of the icons on the desktop and not underneath it and the screen saver does not work. But the computer is at least usable which was hardly the case with 600x800 resolution.

    Also, you seem to know more than I do, so if I was able to sort out the problem following this advice you can do it too.

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1323019&page=2

    Mariane
    The result of the "make" command:
    - Sitting bored in front of a computer
    - Watching abstruse output scrolling upwards too fast to be read
    - And waiting for something to go wrong

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    Re: Increasing screen resolution

    I also have to say that I had to revert to the generic drivers to get stuff working and then put the proprietary driver back on top of the working generic configuration.
    Resolution help | Mac4Lin install guide|Fuduntu
    Quote Originally Posted by kamaboko View Post
    A suggestion for you...dump the "us vs. them" attitude ...

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