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    Re: "Hole in the Linux kernel allows root access" - Do we have to worry?

    Quote Originally Posted by FuturePilot View Post
    What?
    One time there was a fix released, but that only meant that the fix was shown to all who would want to commit it.

    Fix Released =/= Fix Commited

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    Re: "Hole in the Linux kernel allows root access" - Do we have to worry?

    Quote Originally Posted by coldReactive View Post
    One time there was a fix released, but that only meant that the fix was shown to all who would want to commit it.

    Fix Released =/= Fix Commited
    Don't you mean Fix Released != Fix Committed ? != (Not Equal)
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    Re: "Hole in the Linux kernel allows root access" - Do we have to worry?

    Quote Originally Posted by coldReactive View Post
    One time there was a fix released, but that only meant that the fix was shown to all who would want to commit it.

    Fix Released =/= Fix Commited
    Are you referring to bugs that are linked from upstream bug trackers in launchpad? If so, then yes sometimes those can be marked as fixed before it makes it into Ubuntu, but I see no such link in that bug report.

    I think you're confusing some of the bug status. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status
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    Re: "Hole in the Linux kernel allows root access" - Do we have to worry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xbehave View Post
    if you have a kernel before 2.6.32 yes, ubuntu does have root, you just can't login as root. The vulnerability is minimised unless you have wine or dosbox installed in which case it is still there. If you run
    Code:
    cat /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr
    if you get 0 you are bulnerable
    if you get >0 you are safe

    edit erm when i said >0 i think i was wrong it has to be a big number
    So... How do I keep wine working and not be vulnerable?

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    Re: "Hole in the Linux kernel allows root access" - Do we have to worry?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrNatewood View Post
    So... How do I keep wine working and not be vulnerable?
    Remove Z: which is set to the whole file system /

    If you do this however, you'll have to run all your wine apps in drive_c folder from now on.

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    Re: "Hole in the Linux kernel allows root access" - Do we have to worry?

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterNetra View Post
    Doesn't Karmic Come with it fixed?
    Not sure, but when I tried sysctl vm.mmap_min_addr on my Karmic system (with wine installed), it returned 0 which means it would be vulnerable. Whether or not it really is vulnerable is another question, because a default Ubuntu installation has no root account.

    BTW, it looks like a diligent member of our community has reported it:
    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...mu/+bug/401950

    So with dosemu or wine installed, it could be (not necessarily is) vulnerable, but I'll leave that to be answered by a member of the security team or other appropriately educated persons.
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    Re: "Hole in the Linux kernel allows root access" - Do we have to worry?

    Quote Originally Posted by samjh View Post
    Not sure, but when I tried sysctl vm.mmap_min_addr on my Karmic system (with wine installed), it returned 0 which means it would be vulnerable. Whether or not it really is vulnerable is another question, because a default Ubuntu installation has no root account.

    BTW, it looks like a diligent member of our community has reported it:
    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...mu/+bug/401950

    So with dosemu or wine installed, it could be (not necessarily is) vulnerable, but I'll leave that to be answered by a member of the security team or other appropriately educated persons.
    Ubuntu does have a root account, it's disabled though. So yes it is possible to get a root shell through an exploit.
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    Re: "Hole in the Linux kernel allows root access" - Do we have to worry?

    I uninstalled Wine, rebooted, and ran this code
    cat /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr
    and still got a 0. Do I need to be concerned? I can't find how to take care of this problem anywhere, does anyone on here know how?

    Thanks

    Andy

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    Re: "Hole in the Linux kernel allows root access" - Do we have to worry?

    Quote Originally Posted by dixie460 View Post
    I uninstalled Wine, rebooted, and ran this code
    cat /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr
    and still got a 0. Do I need to be concerned? I can't find how to take care of this problem anywhere, does anyone on here know how?

    Thanks

    Andy
    Apparently yes for as long as it is zero. However there is a fix and you can still theoretically run Wine.

    According to: http://www.itworld.com/security/8391...tant-linux-fix

    All you have to do is sudo the command (sense just entering yields our favorite insufficient access reply):
    Code:
     sysctl -w vm.mmap_min_addr="1024"
    however the 1024 can be any number up to 65535. This fix however is only good until you reboot. Though I suppose you could setup a script or something. How you would do a script for a limited account I have no clue.
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    Re: "Hole in the Linux kernel allows root access" - Do we have to worry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xbehave View Post
    if you have a kernel before 2.6.32 yes, ubuntu does have root, you just can't login as root. The vulnerability is minimised unless you have wine or dosbox installed in which case it is still there.
    FYI, I have dosbox installed and:

    Code:
    sysctl vm.mmap_min_addr
    returns "vm.mmap_min_addr = 65536", on Karmic.
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