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    Question How to install (only) a kernel from an installation CD

    Hello

    While trying to free up space it seems I managed to erase or linux-images (had 5-6 of them). When I restarted the computer... surprise, only Ubuntu memory test appears.

    Using a installation CD, how may I install just the kernel, so that the rest of my system remains intact? I wouldn't want to install everything from scratch.

    Thank you very much

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    Re: How to install (only) a kernel from an installation CD

    No advice out there? I'll end up erasing my previous system and installing Karmic from scratch...

    Please, any advice. Thanks

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    Re: How to install (only) a kernel from an installation CD

    This is definitely possible to do, but it'll be tricky. I'd advise following the install method that Gentoo uses: booting into a shell using the install disk, mounting the drive, and chrooting your environment into your old system. Then you can start some basic services (i.e. networking) and install the latest kernel using aptitude.

    I'd basically do something like this:

    Code:
    # Boot into a ROOT shell from the installer - BE CAREFUL!
    # Create a mount point for your existing system
    mkdir /mnt/system
    # Mount the root partition
    # Note that my root filesystem is ext4 on /dev/sda2 - you need to adjust for yours
    mount -t ext4 / /dev/sda2
    # chroot into your old system
    chroot /mnt/system /bin/bash
    # update some environment variabls
    env-update
    source /etc/profile
    # mount all of your previous mount points
    mount -a
    Then you should be able to start networking & find a kernel to install.

    Let me know if you need more detail - I'd be happy to try to figure things out with you.

    I'm using this document as a starting point:
    http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handboo...ap=6#doc_chap1
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    Re: How to install (only) a kernel from an installation CD

    Quote Originally Posted by bribera View Post
    [CODE]# Boot into a ROOT shell from the installer - BE CAREFUL!
    # Create a mount point for your existing system
    mkdir /mnt/system
    # Mount the root partition
    # Note that my root filesystem is ext4 on /dev/sda2 - you need to adjust for yours
    mount -t ext4 / /dev/sda2
    Hi. Thank you for your help. For my computer I am using
    Code:
    mount -t ext3 / /dev/sda2
    but it is not working. I get the following output:

    Code:
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t ext3 / /dev/sda2
    mount: / is not a block device
    I'm running Ubuntu from the install disc. fdisk outputs the following:

    Code:
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
    /dev/sda1               1         914     7341673+  83  Linux
    /dev/sda2   *        3531        6209    21519067+   7  HPFS/NTFS
    /dev/sda3            6210       14593    67344480    7  HPFS/NTFS
    /dev/sda4             915        1845     7478257+   5  Extended
    /dev/sda5             915        1036      979933+  83  Linux
    /dev/sda6            1037        1650     4931923+  83  Linux
    /dev/sda7            1651        1845     1566306   82  Linux swap / Solaris
    Thank you very much for your help and hope to get this cracking soo.

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    Re: How to install (only) a kernel from an installation CD

    Oh, oops -- it looks like I reversed the parameters. The device needs to come first, and then the directory you'd like to mount. I also accidentally told you to mount it to / -- that doesn't work, since you can't mount to / directly. You have to mount to a different directory and chroot into it.

    There's another problem with the command you're running:
    You're mounting /dev/sda2, which looks like a Windows partition to me - it's of type HPFS/NTFS.

    Do you know which of your partitions is actually the root partition for Linux? My guess is it's /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda6, since they're the largest Linux partitions... but you seem to have a weird partition scheme.

    You need to figure out which one is actually supposed to be mounted as / - you can do this by trial and error.

    Code:
    # First you'll make a mount point:
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /mnt/system
    
    # Then you'll mount one of the Linux partitions:
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt/system
    
    # Then check to see if it's actually the / partition:
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls /mnt/system
    
    # If you decide it's not the / partition, unmount it before trying a new one:
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo umount /mnt/system
    An example of what ls might output is this, from my / partition:
    Code:
    total 100K
    drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4.0K 2009-10-26 11:47 bin
    drwxr-xr-x   3 root root 4.0K 2009-10-27 11:33 boot
    lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   11 2009-10-02 11:15 cdrom -> media/cdrom
    drwxr-xr-x  17 root root 4.0K 2009-11-06 10:38 dev
    drwxr-xr-x 146 root root  12K 2009-11-06 10:38 etc
    drwxr-xr-x   3 root root 4.0K 2009-10-02 11:28 home
    lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   33 2009-10-19 11:22 initrd.img -> boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-14-generic
    lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   33 2009-10-09 18:08 initrd.img.old -> boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-13-generic
    drwxr-xr-x  13 root root  12K 2009-10-27 12:44 lib
    drwxr-xr-x   7 root root  12K 2009-10-26 11:47 lib32
    lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root    4 2009-10-02 11:16 lib64 -> /lib
    drwx------   2 root root  16K 2009-10-02 11:15 lost+found
    drwxr-xr-x   3 root root 4.0K 2009-09-29 13:01 media
    drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4.0K 2009-07-13 19:36 mnt
    drwxr-xr-x   3 root root 4.0K 2009-10-12 13:48 opt
    dr-xr-xr-x 202 root root    0 2009-11-06 10:36 proc
    drwx------  14 root root 4.0K 2009-10-29 12:39 root
    drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4.0K 2009-10-27 11:32 sbin
    drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4.0K 2009-08-25 04:07 selinux
    drwxr-xr-x   3 root root 4.0K 2009-10-07 12:00 srv
    drwxr-xr-x  13 root root    0 2009-11-06 10:36 sys
    drwxrwxrwt  14 root root  340 2009-11-06 11:13 tmp
    drwxr-xr-x  12 root root 4.0K 2009-10-30 11:34 usr
    drwxr-xr-x  15 root root 4.0K 2009-09-29 13:12 var
    lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   30 2009-10-19 11:22 vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic
    lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   30 2009-10-09 18:08 vmlinuz.old -> boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-13-generic
    Your partitioning scheme is a little complicated, so you may need to check several of your partitions. Just mount and ls each in order, umounting if you decide you've chosen the wrong one.

    Once you get a partition with directories reasonably similar to the ones I posted, you can move into that directory and chroot:

    Code:
    # chroot into your old system
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo chroot /mnt/system /bin/bash
    
    # update some environment variables
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ env-update
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ source /etc/profile
    
    # mount all of your previous mount points from /etc/fstab
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -a
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    Re: How to install (only) a kernel from an installation CD

    Ok. So I got past the mounting and the /bin/bash parts (I mounted sda1).
    Right now I get the following errors:

    Code:
    root@ubuntu:/# env-update
    bash: env-update: command not found
    Code:
    root@ubuntu:/# source /etc/profile
    root@ubuntu:/# mount -a
    mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/9c30c2b1-7423-48c7-86c5-eceddd6d41f6 does not exist
    ntfs-3g: Failed to access volume '/dev/sda3': No such file or directory
    Please type '/sbin/mount.ntfs-3g --help' for more information.
    Work under way.

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    Re: How to install (only) a kernel from an installation CD

    The env-update error doesn't matter; I guess that's a Gentoo-only thing.

    What does the following output?
    Code:
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount -l
    Also, can you post the output of:
    Code:
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/fstab
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    Re: How to install (only) a kernel from an installation CD

    Quote Originally Posted by bribera View Post
    The env-update error doesn't matter; I guess that's a Gentoo-only thing.

    What does the following output?
    Code:
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount -l
    Also, can you post the output of:
    Code:
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/fstab
    Thank you Bribera. I get the following output:

    Code:
    root@ubuntu:/# mount -l
    /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
    tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
    proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
    sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
    varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
    varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
    udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
    tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
    devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620)
    binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
    root@ubuntu:/# cat /etc/fstab
    # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
    #
    #  -- This file has been automaticly generated by ntfs-config -- 
    #
    # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
    
    proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
    # Entry for /dev/sda1 :
    UUID=c1448a6e-04eb-46a1-80f0-5154db00f923 / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
    # Entry for /dev/sda6 :
    UUID=9c30c2b1-7423-48c7-86c5-eceddd6d41f6 /home ext3 relatime 0 2
    # Entry for /dev/sda7 :
    UUID=ca1de354-fe68-4bb4-8258-29481db9f3e5 none swap sw 0 0
    /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0
    /dev/sda3 /media/Media ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_GB.UTF-8 0 0
    #/dev/sda2 /media/Windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_GB.UTF-8 0 0
    By the way, my partitioning is indeed strange. Dual boot basically, the linux root, home, swap, the Windows and some other partitions. Cheers

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    Re: How to install (only) a kernel from an installation CD

    I have also tried to install directly through apt-get a linux-image, but:

    Code:
    root@ubuntu:/# sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.30
    sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu
    E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
    E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), 
    is another process using it?
    No chance to get that working .

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    Re: How to install (only) a kernel from an installation CD

    Hmm... two thoughts on that:

    1. Your networking probably isn't running, so you won't be able to download stuff
    2. /var might be mounted elsewhere (!?)


    For the first, try running this:
    Code:
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
    For the second, post your mount -l and /etc/fstab. It could be that one of your other partitions needs to be mounted in order to access /var.
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