Finally got a GUI setup on arch!

[Eisenwinter]

It's really easy.

Just download xorg, then run "Xorg -configure" as root.

This should detect your graphics card and set up X properly, which will save you some time editing the config file by yourself.

I still prefer to use the open source radeon driver, so I have to get an extra package called ati-dri, and change the driver parameters in xorg.conf.

[Dimitriid]

Installing Arch is hard work if:

You don't follow The Beginners Guide to the letter. (done finished)

You don't know how to follow really good instructions. (al la The Beginners Guide)

You happen to be one of the very few that have a lack of hardware support.

You happen to have some kind of unusual setup desire & you haven't looked in the Arch wiki for a solution.

You looked in the Arch wiki for a solution, found none & haven't yet searched for the answer in the Arch forum.

You haven't after all else failing posted the question in the Arch forum.

Aye, there was not a single issue I couldn't resolve following this exact troubleshooting path. Maybe add the arch irc channel on freenode.

[Muppeteer]

I agree that people shouldn't install Chakra just because it's easier. I first switched to arch over a year ago, and while following the instructions, it was very easy. And now i'm comfortable with how Arch works and could probably install it without needing the manual.

[Pasdar]

For some people, like me, its not an issue of whether I can install it. I know I can, I can even install Gentoo. The question is whether it can be done fast, without too many troubles and whether the OS provides enough advantages over the one I'm using now to even consider installing it in the first place.

From the benchmarks at Phoronix I conclude its not worth my time. Spending a day installing it while there is minimal to no difference in speed between the two (Arch and Ubuntu).

[Skripka]

From the benchmarks at Phoronix I conclude its not worth my time. Spending a day installing it while there is minimal to no difference in speed between the two (Arch and Ubuntu).

The thing to remember is that regardless, Phoronix benchmarks of linuxes are by-and-large worthless. Especially when they are comparing a fixed and a rolling release--that are not even using the same kernel (nevermind that all the packages are different versions). I'm about to say the same thing in the Gentoo Vs. Ubuntu benchmarks thread....

Throw in some text blurbs, and some bar graphs and BAM you have enough column inches to keep your website looking alive and running.

[mivo]

Spending a day installing it while there is minimal to no difference in speed between the two (Arch and Ubuntu).

The time spent on the initial installation may be the same, or Arch may even take you a couple extra hours (in exchange for a cleaner, slimmer and better performing system that you know inside out), but consider that Arch is a rolling release distro, so you don't have to do this every six months like with Ubuntu (we all know how well the dist upgrade works ...).

You'll spend much more time on installing and re-installing Ubuntu over a period of time. This was one of the reasons why I switched my desktop to Arch.

[handy]

Like a broken record I say:

Arch is by far the easiest system to maintain I have come across in 24 years of being addicted to computers.

Most users find the installation process to be fun.

Without The Beginners Guide it would not be fun for most users, particularly on their first install.

On my machine, my Arch setup is much faster than Ubuntu, or any other system I have tried on it, including OS X.

[handy]

Does the "chakra" give the users the same installation options it does to those installing arch via terminal?

Read the link supplied in the post before you posted the above?

[wojox]

Chakra takes 99% of the fun out of it.