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Old October 31st, 2009   #1
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9.10 update didn't work for me

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After all day of downloading 1300+ updates, I get an error message that it can authenticate the packages.

What kind of crap is this? I've waited for a month with hopes that this would be better than 9.04.
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Old October 31st, 2009   #2
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Re: 9.10 update CRAP

A whole day? pffft,I should have downloaded the live-cd and do a fresh install.
Shouldn't take more than few hours.
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Old October 31st, 2009   #3
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A whole day? pffft,I should have downloaded the live-cd and do a fresh install.
Shouldn't take more than few hours.
Don't bother, I d/l the alternative cd - 2 hours - after running the upgrade and restart it would not start, just sat there for 10 minutes flashing 'starting up'.

Eventually I managed to boot using failsafe mode. It had not installed the nvidia drivers, but there were in my xorg.conf. Eventually I found a way to get x to start and when rebooted my m/c..... I had only a partial upgrade. So then it refused to do the upgrade from cdrom and ended up spending 12+ hours installing from the net.

Having done all that it tells me it cannot authenticate a load of packages and so refuses to load them. This includes stuff like apache and kde.

So now I have amachine that is only partially upgraded.


What a f******g waste of my time.
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Old October 31st, 2009   #4
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Re: 9.10 update CRAP

Personally, I think the entire Ubuntu Distro Upgrading system is half-baked. Maybe even no-baked. Such a heap of trash that it makes Ubuntu and Debian look crappy as a whole. I upgraded today, and now my entire system is exploded, and absolutely nothing works anymore.
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Old October 31st, 2009   #5
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Re: 9.10 update CRAP

Sigh...

1. Download Live version, test if computer works with Karmic. Check release notes and use Google to look for workarounds for known problems. If no work, no install.
2. Backup your data.
3. Do CLEAN install of Karmic. Do NOT upgrade.
4. Happiness for all.
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Old October 31st, 2009   #6
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Yeah........crap is a good word
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Old October 31st, 2009   #7
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Re: 9.10 update CRAP

Upgrading from 9.04 and all I can get for downloading packages is 20k/sec? First upgrade failed; it couldn't complete the download because of timeouts. This is sad. Even windoze can be installed from scratch in less time than "About 7 hours remaining."
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Old October 31st, 2009   #8
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Re: 9.10 update CRAP

This forum is a place for you to get FREE help for the FREE OS you're all trying to install.
Why get all bent about this........
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Old November 1st, 2009   #9
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Personally, I think the entire Ubuntu Distro Upgrading system is half-baked. Maybe even no-baked. Such a heap of trash that it makes Ubuntu and Debian look crappy as a whole. I upgraded today, and now my entire system is exploded, and absolutely nothing works anymore.
I really don't get that. I have never done a fresh install in my life (excluding my first install off course), and been running linux (and ubuntu for years). On allot of threads I hear people talking about "fresh installs is the way to go....".
If that where true for me, it would be a total crappy situation! Like I have nothing better to do than do installs all day (especially if you are maintaining multiple systems). At least a troublesome upgrade is somewhat educational, to say the least. It's not like ubuntu is Windows or something, we don't have a registry that gets clogged up...

If an upgrade broke your system, its a bug, get it fixed (is my opinion). If it's not a bug, take care of your OS better, or learn how you messed it up.

Although I totally respect anyone doing a fresh install (every 6 months), I really disagree creating the fable that ubuntu/linux needs fresh installs to function properly.
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Old November 1st, 2009   #10
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I really don't get that. I have never done a fresh install in my life (excluding my first install off course), and been running linux (and ubuntu for years). On allot of threads I hear people talking about "fresh installs is the way to go....".
.. I really disagree creating the fable that ubuntu/linux needs fresh installs to function properly.
I had to fresh install karmic to take advantage of :
1. ext4
2. grub 2
among other reasons.

Is there a way to get these without a fresh install?
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