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  1. #11
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    Re: 9.10 Upstart Breaks Cron,Cups,SSH, etc...

    In my case (I use a labtop with wireless connection only), it broke after the last upgrade.
    I found out that there was a tiny difference in the file
    '/etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf'
    which seems to inhibit sysinit to start when the network isn't ready.
    When I used the old version everything worked again.
    old start condition:
    "start on filesystem"
    new start condition:
    "start on filesystem and net-device-up IFACE=lo"

  2. #12
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    Re: 9.10 Upstart Breaks Cron,Cups,SSH, etc...

    upstart 0.6.3-11 was the issue, reverted to 0.6.3-10 and everything is back to normal
    this was my issue do not go crazy w/ ur configs try this first

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    Re: 9.10 Upstart Breaks Cron,Cups,SSH, etc...

    Quote Originally Posted by at0m1sk View Post
    this was my issue do not go crazy w/ ur configs try this first
    Thanks...i'll have to look around to see how to install a specific version (unless downloading it from the official site is the only way which is fine)

    Edit: I just figured out how to downgrade and rebooted...

    everything is working again! Thank You!
    Last edited by arock99; December 22nd, 2009 at 04:46 AM.

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    Re: 9.10 Upstart Breaks Cron,Cups,SSH, etc...

    1. Guys, can you please leave instructions for non-tech guys like me how to downgrade?

    2. Can you also please look into this thread and see if my problems with start up scripts on light sensor in my laptop can be connected to this?

    http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1361002

  5. #15
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    Re: 9.10 Upstart Breaks Cron,Cups,SSH, etc...

    On the 20th I innocently upgraded the packages suggested by the Update Manager. Next day upon re-boot I found that Apache and Postgresql no longer started.

    Solution: downgrade Upstart 0.6.3-11 to 0.6.3-10. Apache and Postgresql work normally now.

    How? Using the Synaptic Package Manager search for upstart. Select it and then under Package click on Force Version. You get to choose between 0.6.3-11 and 0.6.3-10. Choose 10 and click on apply.

    it's that easy. But it took me hours of googleing to find the solution. Very frustrating.

    - Jon

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    Re: 9.10 Upstart Breaks Cron,Cups,SSH, etc...

    Thx, man. I've did this and the system is now back to normal.

    Is there anyway to see what has been updated with the recent update to at least know what to downgrade?

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    Re: 9.10 Upstart Breaks Cron,Cups,SSH, etc...

    /var/log/dpkg.log shows an update history

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    Re: 9.10 Upstart Breaks Cron,Cups,SSH, etc...

    so whenis this going to be fixed with a new version of upstart ?

    At the moment I have a completly hosed system.
    I downgraded upstart to the previous version and this worked while i had a dynamic address but since my install is a home server, I have to have a fixed ip address and since changing this back to fixed ip address it no longer works.

    Id like to re-install the system (as it was an upgrade from 8.04) but since upstart is screwed there is no point installing a new system that will also be non working.

    I am sure lots of people are having problems with this upstart issue and I feel this issue should be escillated to be fixed asap.

    Issue also exists in kubuntu 9.10 as well.

    Other than that everything else just works.

  9. #19
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    Re: 9.10 Upstart Breaks Cron,Cups,SSH, etc...

    This fixed my problems as well, but I have a question. When I do an apt upgrade it wants to upgrade upstart since it's been forced to a previous version. Is there a way to have aptitude ignore this package until the bug is fixed? I do regular system updates and I'd rather not have to force the version every single time.

  10. #20
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    Re: 9.10 Upstart Breaks Cron,Cups,SSH, etc...

    you can hold upstart (once downgraded) by :-

    To put a package to hold:
    echo "upstart"|dpkg --set-selections

    however, you will need to unhold the package at a later date.
    This can be done by :-

    to 'unhold' it:
    echo "upstart"|dpkg --set-selecions

    I have never done this myself but this should work.

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