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    unknown process

    The system monitor is displaying an unnamed process that's not using any memory or CPU and changes it's PID at regular intervals. Occasionally, another process appears with an ID one digit less than the first one and quickly disappears again. It appears when I boot up and it's quite worrying, not knowing what it does and how it got there. Anyone have any ideas what could cause this?
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    Unhappy Re: unknown process

    I've just noticed exactly the same problem!

    I've been unable to Stop, End or Kill this process via the right-click menu in System Monitor.

    The Process ID is changing very quickly - initially I had process refresh set to every 3 seconds, but decreasing this to 1 sec is showing PID change every second!

    Process is unnamed (Null), running as Root, Status is Sleeping, memory usage is N/A and CPU% is 0. Process doesn't seem to show up in gnome-terminal when using: ps -eflu root | grep " S root " | grep -v grep

    System is a Dell Optiplex GX520, 2.8 GHz iP4HT, 1 GB Ram, running Ubuntu 9.04 (32 bit) in Gnome. System is fully up to date as of this morning.

    Can anyone help? Is this a normal process, or a virus?

    Rob.
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    Unhappy Re: unknown process

    Further to this issue, when I try to log out of my Gnome session, I get a pop-up dialog telling me that Unknown is not responding (see attached).
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    Re: unknown process

    Odd. I found this thread:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7743575

    For that person apparently it was related to enabling remote desktop.

    I got no clue though

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    Lightbulb Re: unknown process

    Thanks @P4Man - interesting reading.

    After my earlier post today and before your reply, I was doing a little digging around with ps -efl -u root and looking up things on the web, and I spotted that I had a process called "hddtemp" running:

    1 S root 2858 1 0 80 0 - 519 select 09:12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/hddtemp -d -l 127.0.0.1 -p 7634 -s | /dev/sg1 /dev/sda

    I killed that and uninstalled it via Synaptic. I seem to recall installing it as part of a failed attempt to get some Dell BIOS update working under Linux.

    Then I also spotted the following 3 lines:

    0 S root 3117 3050 0 80 0 - 832 poll 09:12 ? 00:00:00 hald-runner
    0 S root 3146 3117 0 80 0 - 1294 poll 09:12 ? 00:00:00 hald-addon-input: Listening on /dev/input/event1 /dev/input/event0 /dev/input/event4
    0 S root 3182 3117 0 80 0 - 1295 poll 09:12 ? 00:00:01 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sr0 (every 2 sec)

    Hmm, polling every 2 seconds... So, I did a little reading and there seems to be a lot of complaints about HALD using a lot of CPU. Sure enough, both cores/threads on my CPU were consistently running at over 60%!

    Issuing a kill -9 3182 to stop the hald-addon-storage, made the CPU usage drop to around 3% on each core/thread! I then checked System Monitor and the unnamed process had disappeared!!!

    I restarted the PC and sure enough, the unnamed process was back again So was the hald-addon-storage and CPU usage is back above 60%. I killed the hald-addon-storage again, but CPU usage is still same and unnamed process is still there!

    I have KDE 4.2 installed as well, so I logged out of Gnome and into KDE and the unnamed process is not running there. CPU is still high, but this is because of Plasma.

    Can anyone help further?

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    Exclamation Re: unknown process

    Doh! I forgot to test that Remote Desktop issue. Yes, I do have Remote Desktop running under Gnome (and KDE for that matter).

    I've now switched off Remote Desktop (System > Preferences > Remote Desktop > Allow other users to view your desktop = No).

    Low and behold! The unnamed process has gone from System Monitor process list and the CPU usage has dropped to between 3% and 30%! Thanks @P4man!!

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    Re: unknown process

    vinoserver, which is used for remote desktop is so incredibly crappy :s
    Its slower than cold molasses running up a hill even on a 100Mbit lan.
    And now it seems to eat more cpu cycles than Quake3 - even when its not running. About time canonical ditch it for something better like xvnc or freenx.

    anyway, your problem solved, but credits go to "rjlm" and google

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    Re: unknown process

    Quote Originally Posted by BOBSta View Post
    I've now switched off Remote Desktop (System > Preferences > Remote Desktop > Allow other users to view your desktop = No).
    +1

    thx for the help
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    Re: unknown process

    I've encountered the same problem. Examining .xsession-errors led me to the same solution about RD, but i noticed that problem came up when tried to enable System->Preferences-> Startup Applications->"Remember running applications when logging out"

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    Re: unknown process

    Thanks all!

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