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    Not getting notified of updates?

    My Jaunty machines hardly ever prompt me to install any
    updates, even though I know Chrome is updated weekly.
    After glaring at them for days, it dawned on me that
    update-notifier has a bug: when no security updates are
    waiting, it won't launch update-manager unless it's been
    a week since you last installed something.
    The way it tells you've installed something is by checking
    the date on /var/log/dpkg.log.
    But since logs are rotated weekly, that means it almost
    never hits a week before that file is touched again,
    and so it never launches update manager!

    Anyone feel like verifying this theory?

    See also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...er/+bug/356152

    I wrote a little perl script that prints out why
    update-notifier isn't launching update-manager; it's at
    http://kegel.com/linux/ubuntu-autoup...gnostic-pl.txt
    This is what led me to figure out what was going on.

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    Re: Not getting notified of updates?

    It's a "feature". Don't know why anyone thought it was a good idea.

    I don't remember where I found it, but I used the work around.

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    Re: Not getting notified of updates?

    Quote Originally Posted by QIII View Post
    It's a "feature".
    No, I understand what they intended: that you
    not be bothered with noncritical updates for a week
    after you last ran update-manager or apt-get install manually.

    But it's not working as they intended! They expect
    it to show you noncritical updates after a week
    of inactivity, but because the log rotation looks
    like activity to update-notifier, it *never* shows
    noncritical updates. That was not their intent when
    they made the change.

    Sigh. Maybe I'll have to become a MOTU and upload a fix myself...

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    Re: Not getting notified of updates?

    When I saw this when I upgraded, I happened across a setting that changed it back. Mine works like always with a icon in the tool bar when ever any update is available. I had to look in google to find the setting again.
    This site has the setting. http://maketecheasier.com/remove-the...nty/2009/06/18
    You use gconf-editor in terminal and Navigate to Apps->Update Notifier and uncheck the auto launch box. Seems backwards to me but it works.

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    Re: Not getting notified of updates?

    I don't want the old behavior back. I want the new behavior
    to work as designed. I don't care about my computer; I'm
    worried about the 99% of Ubuntu users who are using
    the default settings. They should get notified of nonsecurity
    updates after no more than a week, as the update-notifier
    author intended, and this bug makes them wait longer.

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    Re: Not getting notified of updates?

    Quote Originally Posted by dankegel View Post
    They expect
    it to show you noncritical updates after a week
    of inactivity, but because the log rotation looks
    like activity to update-notifier, it *never* shows
    noncritical updates.
    Correction: the dpkg.log and apt/term.log files are
    rotated monthly, so this bug only causes an extra
    week of no updates. Now I think in the average month,
    in the absence of security updates, users will get
    prompted to install nonsecurity updates three times instead
    of four as a result of this particular bug.

    So, it's only 1/4 as awful as I thought. Still worth
    fixing.

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