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    Re: 5 seconds boot

    Quote Originally Posted by LightB View Post
    For instance, it doesn't impress me much that the framebuffer terminals often just don't work right and sometimes even cause the display to blow up (this happens on the new ati driver). It's clearly due to heavy ubuntu hacks that aren't related to debian at all or any other distro.
    That might be a ATI problem and not a Ubuntu one.

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    Re: 5 seconds boot

    Quote Originally Posted by Kareeser View Post
    Hm. I figured it would be par for the course.

    Ever checked out how long it takes for the list of programs in "Add/Remove Programs" to render?

    Ironically, it's a very similar example.
    4 seconds (i just timed mine) and most of it was "dependency generation" which is extremely important. this is far more advanced than the "add/remove programs" crap in windows (which I can say often takes forever to load and sometimes, deleted programs will still show up in it even after they are "uninstalled" from the system)

    but my perspective is that they've already focused a LOT of their time getting Jaunty's boot time to a ridiculously low number of seconds... whats the point of spending more time (and resources) shaving off an additional 5 seconds when there is so much more important stuff that needs to be added to Karmic (a new theme anyone?)

    and shouldn't they be working on that horrible intel graphics problem thats plaguing many users?

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    Re: 5 seconds boot

    5 second boot seems nice.

    But with a peak read of 3MB/s? Wow. So at most it could read 9MB.

    Hardly a usable desktop.

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    Re: 5 seconds boot

    Quote Originally Posted by gn2 View Post
    Boot times are pretty irrelevant unless you are someone who is extremely impatient.
    Most things we focus on with our systems are pretty irrelevant. How many times do we see people bragging that their OS can run off a 256mb flash drive when it's on a computer with a 200gb HD with 3gb of RAM in it?

    Part of the Linux endeavor is seeing what is POSSIBLE with an OS.
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    Re: 5 seconds boot

    Quote Originally Posted by DMcA View Post
    actually, I believe quick boot times should be a priority, although not the only one of course. I don't see why modern computers should take so long to do relatively basic tasks. People don't write as efficient code as they used to
    +10^100000000

    The main thing that slows down my boot sequence is the motherboard. It takes so long to get to Grub. Grrrr. Never getting an Asus mobo again.
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    Re: 5 seconds boot

    Quote Originally Posted by mips View Post
    That might be a ATI problem and not a Ubuntu one.
    I've seen fb issues on several PCs over the years from the first time I tried Ubuntu. They didn't all have ATI video. It's clear the fb is hacked somehow, probably related to the splash screen, but I was never able to put my finger on it. No other distros I've tried behave in this way.

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    Re: 5 seconds boot

    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Angeles View Post
    whats the point of spending more time (and resources) shaving off an additional 5 seconds when there is so much more important stuff that needs to be added to Karmic (a new theme anyone?)

    and shouldn't they be working on that horrible intel graphics problem thats plaguing many users?
    There are some that would say a new theme for Karmic is a waste of developer talent

    I'm not one of then, but I'm just sayin'.

    The only excuse I've heard to explain the regressions is that "cutting edge Ubuntu releases are designed for top-notch computers with an eye towards backwards compatability. If you are experiencing regressions, your technology is too old".

    Except, my 3 year old laptop is not too old, I'd think. *sigh*

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    Re: 5 seconds boot

    People saying 'I get 5 seconds boot time, who cares' should realize that other people have different equipment and different needs.

    For example, I'm quite happy with the Jaunty boot times on my Dell desktop, and if I want a faster startup I can use suspend to RAM.

    But my eeePC netbook is a different matter. I don't want to use suspend on it because (acording to the hardware manual, presumably due to the small heat generation) I shouldn't put it in the soft case supplied while suspended, only while off.
    The boot time in the supplied Xandros is 14s to login and then less than 5s to desktop.

    I want to switch to Jaunty - it gives better wifi performance among other advantages - but the boot time is about 25s to login and then nearly another 25s from login to desktop. This is significant when you just want to check email or do a quick web search.

    I only installed Jaunty yesterday so I'm hoping to optimize it a bit by turning off unnecessary services etc. but previous experience suggests this will only shave a few seconds.
    I would hope that Ubuntu could at least approach Xandros's boot+ login time e.g. total in the range 20-30 secs rather than 50 secs.

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    Re: 5 seconds boot

    Quote Originally Posted by Framp View Post
    yesterday i found a boot replacement for arch linux and i was amazed.. O_o

    check this out:
    http://translate.google.it/translate...2F&sl=it&tl=en
    5 seconds from grub to x, on a common pc!

    i think it's quite interesting and it would be cool if something similar got implemented in ubuntu

    actually i was wondering why nobody have thought of it before..
    i don't know a lot about boot implementations, but it looks like this guy have parallelized boot daemons in order to achieve speed.. and it's working!

    just wanna to share this piece of information.. (hoping that ubuntu follows this direction )

    bye

    EDIT: that's better
    http://translate.google.it/translate...2F&sl=it&tl=en
    How long from the bios to X?

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