Media players: hunting for fatty

[Skripka]

For what it's worth. 1 video, 941 podcasts and 7648 songs as well as mirage loaded in banshee leads to 78megs of memory used. I am very pleased, and it remains responsive

I duon't know how poorly Ubuntu builds Amarok2...but I have it running here on Arch KDEmod with 94MB, and a library of ~6000 songs....Amarok also can use my G15 keyboard media keys-which is something I have yet to find any other media player support.

[Skripka]

PURE AWESOMENESS comes at a (small) cost.

Small?

depends:

gstreamer0.10-cdparanoia gstreamer0.10-faac gstreamer0.10-faad gstreamer0.10-gconf gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs gstreamer0.10-lame gstreamer0.10-mad gstreamer0.10-ogg gstreamer0.10-vorbis gtk-sharp-2>=2.8 hal ipod-sharp-svn mono-addins>=0.3.1 musicbrainz nautilus-cd-burner ndesk-dbus>=0.5 ndesk-dbus-glib>=0.3.1 sqlite3>=3.4 taglib-sharp>=2.0

versus

Amarok: kdebase-runtime>=4.1 libmp4v2 phonon qt>=4.4 qtscriptgenerator>=0.1 taglib>=1.5 xine-lib>=1.1.2

[directhex]

OTOH, Banshee has the highest number of dependencies of any audio player I know of.

There are 2 types of Banshee dependency.

The package version I've used here is a snapshot for what'll appear in Karmic pretty much the day it opens, which eliminates one class (gstreamer plugin packages with enormous dep chains, i.e. gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg)

The other class is teeny tiny library dependencies - there are a large number of them, but they're very small. Hence on a Jaunty system, it comes out better than the major competition

[directhex]

I duon't know how poorly Ubuntu builds Amarok2...but I have it running here on Arch KDEmod with 94MB, and a library of ~6000 songs....Amarok also can use my G15 keyboard media keys-which is something I have yet to find any other media player support.

You're running KDE. So the kded and kdeinit processes are "shared". For Ubuntu users on GNOME, they're NOT shared, and therefore have been added to the memory use total.

Oh, and if you're on i386, then you use less RAM than my AMD64 numbers.

[Skripka]

You're running KDE. So the kded and kdeinit processes are "shared". For Ubuntu users on GNOME, they're NOT shared, and therefore have been added to the memory use total.

I still don't see how that gets Amarok up to 200+ MB...Even adding kded and kdeinit along with Amarok I barely go over 100MB.


And I'm on 64bit.

[directhex]

I still don't see how that gets Amarok up to 200+ MB...Even adding kded and kdeinit along with Amarok I barely go over 100MB.


And I'm on 64bit.

you're reading the disk space column. 200 meg for enough of qt and kde to run amarok? sounds right to me

[Tibuda]

I think Banshee would be a good choice because it is also a Video player.

I still don't see how that gets Amarok up to 200+ MB...Even adding kded and kdeinit along with Amarok I barely go over 100MB.


And I'm on 64bit.

I already got Qt installed for Skype, and installing Amarok+deps in my x86 Jaunty will need 176MB of disk space:

$ sudo apt-get install amarok
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  amarok-common exiv2 kde-icons-oxygen kdebase-runtime
  kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 kdebase-runtime-data kdebase-runtime-data-common
  kdelibs-bin kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data kdemultimedia-kio-plugins khelpcenter4
  libclucene0ldbl libexiv2-5 libkcddb4 libloudmouth1-0 libmtp8 libphonon4
  libqt4-opengl libqt4-svg libqt4-test libqt4-webkit librasqal1 librdf0
  libsoprano4 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libxcb-shape0 libxcb-shm0
  libxcb-xv0 libxine1 libxine1-bin libxine1-console libxine1-misc-plugins
  libxine1-x phonon phonon-backend-xine redland-utils soprano-daemon
  ttf-dejavu ttf-dejavu-extra
Suggested packages:
  libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-sql-psql kdebase lame gxine xine-ui libxine1-doc
  libxine-doc libxine1-ffmpeg phonon-backend-vlc phonon-backend-mplayer
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  amarok amarok-common exiv2 kde-icons-oxygen kdebase-runtime
  kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 kdebase-runtime-data kdebase-runtime-data-common
  kdelibs-bin kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data kdemultimedia-kio-plugins khelpcenter4
  libclucene0ldbl libexiv2-5 libkcddb4 libloudmouth1-0 libmtp8 libphonon4
  libqt4-opengl libqt4-svg libqt4-test libqt4-webkit librasqal1 librdf0
  libsoprano4 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libxcb-shape0 libxcb-shm0
  libxcb-xv0 libxine1 libxine1-bin libxine1-console libxine1-misc-plugins
  libxine1-x phonon phonon-backend-xine redland-utils soprano-daemon
  ttf-dejavu ttf-dejavu-extra
0 upgraded, 42 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 55.7MB of archives.
After this operation, 176MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
Abort.

[Skripka]

you're reading the disk space column. 200 meg for enough of qt and kde to run amarok? sounds right to me

No I was reading RAM straight off top. Haven't checked disk space needs....

[Polygon]

Small?

depends:

gstreamer0.10-cdparanoia gstreamer0.10-faac gstreamer0.10-faad gstreamer0.10-gconf gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs gstreamer0.10-lame gstreamer0.10-mad gstreamer0.10-ogg gstreamer0.10-vorbis gtk-sharp-2>=2.8 hal ipod-sharp-svn mono-addins>=0.3.1 musicbrainz nautilus-cd-burner ndesk-dbus>=0.5 ndesk-dbus-glib>=0.3.1 sqlite3>=3.4 taglib-sharp>=2.0

versus

Amarok: kdebase-runtime>=4.1 libmp4v2 phonon qt>=4.4 qtscriptgenerator>=0.1 taglib>=1.5 xine-lib>=1.1.2

you are USING kde. all the dependencies for the program are already built in. its like comparing the memory usage of internet explorer vs firefox, internet explorer is a integrated portion of windows, so therefore, it needs less stuff because everything it needs is already loaded by windows.

and like the person above said, if you arn't using kde or kubuntu, then installing amarok is quite a hefty download, as it requires kde.