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    The Future of Ubuntu CE and a little explanation...

    Update: I am going to reimbursed for my laptop!! It may take a little while to see the money, but at least I will get reimbursed. I apologize for my absence from the forums. I have been very busy doing tons of freelance work and also developing my site, TheJesusTV.com. I am going to suspend work on the Ubuntu CE project temporarily, but indefinitely. I have struggled with this decision for quite a while. The project is not dead, but I need some time to work on some other projects. I hope you all will understand this decision. Please keep me in your prayers.

    God Bless, Jereme

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    Hi all,
    I know that many of you are chomping at the bit to find out about the next release of Ubuntu CE. First let me say thank you for all of your enthusiasm. I never expected Ubuntu CE gain such a community.

    I know things have been very slow with Ubuntu CE and I do apologize for that. I wanted to post a little explanation of why things are moving so slow and to layout the plan for the next release.

    Ok, so here is what has slowed things down. Ubuntu CE has many contributors without which Ubuntu CE could not exist. However, at the core Ubuntu CE is a one person "operation". I do not mean to diminish the efforts and contributions of the many Team members and forum members who have contributed. I just want people to understand the the website, distro, and all of the custom packages (dansguardian gui, esword installer, etc) are all built on my laptop. Which brings me to a bizarre situationi that started back in September.

    Back in September I was taking out the trash. Our building has a room on the first floor for disposing of our trash. Occasionally people will throw away old computers. In fact a few years ago I found one their and installed Ubuntu on it and gave it to a friend who was in need of a laptop. It was truly a "trash to treasure" moment. So when I spotted a broken laptop I was stoked. The only thing that I was able to salvage was the 30gb hard drive from the wreckage. So, I put the hard drive into an extra enclosure that I had and plugged it in to my laptop to see if it was functioning. It worked perfectly. My plan was to format it and use it for extra storage. Before I formatted it I decided to see what was on the hard drive. That is where I made a mistake.

    Well, I guess it wasn't a mistake because I am glad that I was able to help in the upcoming investigation. My bad I am getting ahead of myself. So, the hard drive had some teenage kids homework and such. I ran across some "adult" material. The only problem is that I started noticing that there were some odd things like tons of info on school shootings and terrorism. Then I found the worst thing that I have ever seen. It was a cache of child pornography. I immediately pulled the usb cord out of my laptop and tried to figure out what to do.

    Now, I have two young boys of my own. I sat up almost all night worrying about my kids, the kids in the pictures and just completely disgusted at the whole thing. I decided that I had to inform the authorities. The next day I called and several detectives came to investigate. I was glad to be helpful, but I did not know that I was going to end up losing my laptop over it.

    The detectives asked me tons of questions and took my statement. Then they dropped the bombshell. Since my laptop had been connected to the hard drive via usb cable they had to confiscate my laptop so they could verify that the images and such originated from the hard drive and not my laptop. I assumed they were just going to take my hard drive, but they took my whole laptop. They said that I would get it back in a matter of a few weeks. Boy were they wrong! They did allow me to make a full backup of the hard drive, so I would not lose all of my data.

    So, now I am working off a much older/slower laptop that simply will not run Vmware or Virtualbox at a speed suitable for testing. It locks up before it ever gets started. The detective in charge of the investigation recently called to let me know that I should have my laptop back by the end of March.

    I apologize for not explaining this sooner, but I was hoping that I would get my laptop back sooner and I could move on with things. I wished I had the resources to just go out and buy a new laptop, but that simply is not an option right now.

    So, the plan for the next release of Ubuntu CE is this. I will focus on building on Hardy. There will not be a Gutsy release. At this point it only makes sense to skip Gutsy. I will also be focusing on the Dansguardian GUI. I will probably discontinue work on the esword installer and ies4linux installer as these complicate the build process quite a bit and I believe that the Parental Controls is the most important area to focus on at this point. I also may switch over to a DVD release instead of keeping things down to a 700mb disc. This would also make the build time faster.

    Please let me know what you think.

    God Bless, Jereme
    Last edited by mhancoc7; April 10th, 2008 at 05:56 AM.

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    Re: The Future of Ubuntu CE and a little explanation...

    Quote Originally Posted by mhancoc7 View Post
    I will probably discontinue work on the esword installer and ies4linux installer as these complicate the build process quite a bit
    I will make sure the generic "how to" to install esword will work on Hardy:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=404042

    As for ies4linux, I thought below script is easy enough:
    http://http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies...llation:Ubuntu

    DK
    Last edited by david_kt; February 2nd, 2008 at 02:19 PM.

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    Re: The Future of Ubuntu CE and a little explanation...

    Quote Originally Posted by david_kt;
    I will make sure the generic "how to" to install esword will work on Hardy:
    Thanks.

    I'm looking at the options for the resource installer. Specifically, integrating The e-Sword Module Database into it.

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    Well I hope you get your laptop back soon. If police want people to come forward with information they should treat people with respect. Just goes to show you that no good deed goes unpunished. You may be more forgiving then I am, but after hearing that I would never help the police again. I say, let them mind thier own business and I'll mind mine.

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    Dear Jereme,
    As the father of a 10 year old I can understand how mortified you must have been when you saw what was on that drive. I wish that I had a laptop that I could send you, but I am disabled and don't even own one myself (All of my computing is done on an old, and I mean old Compaq Pentium 3 tower) lol!
    I think it is the wise thing to do to just do the build on Hardy, and I can't wait to see the finished product. I also think that the DVD release is a great idea.
    One request if I may: Please do not eliminate E-Sword I depend on it daily and I don't have the knowledge to deal with Wine and trying to tackle something like that myself.
    At any rate I hope that you get your laptop back soon, and know that you and your family are in our thoughts and prayers.
    God Bless.
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    Re: The Future of Ubuntu CE and a little explanation...

    Quote Originally Posted by david_kt View Post
    I will make sure the generic "how to" to install esword will work on Hardy:

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=404042

    As for ies4linux, I thought below script is easy enough:
    http://http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies...llation:Ubuntu

    DK
    Thanks, if the generic "how to" is maintained then it may be fairly easy for me to keep the esword installer in the next release.

    Yes the script that you mentioned is basically all that is used in Ubuntu CE. When I first put it together the ies4linux script did not have the nice GUI that it has now. The other issue is that the installed IE can be used to circumvent the parental controls.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonathonblake View Post
    Thanks.

    I'm looking at the options for the resource installer. Specifically, integrating The e-Sword Module Database into it.

    xan

    jonathon
    Thanks, keep me updated!

    Quote Originally Posted by waspinator View Post
    Well I hope you get your laptop back soon. If police want people to come forward with information they should treat people with respect. Just goes to show you that no good deed goes unpunished. You may be more forgiving then I am, but after hearing that I would never help the police again. I say, let them mind thier own business and I'll mind mine.
    I would feel that way if kids weren't involved. It is a small price for me to pay if it will help to get one of those kids some help.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Shunamon View Post
    Dear Jereme,
    As the father of a 10 year old I can understand how mortified you must have been when you saw what was on that drive. I wish that I had a laptop that I could send you, but I am disabled and don't even own one myself (All of my computing is done on an old, and I mean old Compaq Pentium 3 tower) lol!
    I think it is the wise thing to do to just do the build on Hardy, and I can't wait to see the finished product. I also think that the DVD release is a great idea.
    One request if I may: Please do not eliminate E-Sword I depend on it daily and I don't have the knowledge to deal with Wine and trying to tackle something like that myself.
    At any rate I hope that you get your laptop back soon, and know that you and your family are in our thoughts and prayers.
    God Bless.
    ><> Jim Shunamon <><
    Thanks Jim. I really appreciate your kind words and input. I really do not want to leave out esword either. Thanks for showing your support for keeping it. That will help me decide to keep it or leave it out.

    God Bless, Jereme

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    Re: The Future of Ubuntu CE and a little explanation...

    [QUOTE=mhancoc7;4257484]Thanks, if the generic "how to" is maintained then it may be fairly easy for me to keep the esword installer in the next release./QUOTE]

    If you just teach me how to make the script and subsequently the deb package, I would be happy to help you to maintain esword deb package.

    DK

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhancoc7 View Post
    Thanks, if the generic "how to" is maintained then it may be fairly easy for me to keep the esword installer in the next release./QUOTE]

    If you just teach me how to make the script and subsequently the deb package, I would be happy to help you to maintain esword deb package.

    DK
    Thanks for that. The script is fairly basic. I use gambas to build the GUI. I am not sure how good of a teacher I would be though. I am still learning myself.
    God Bless, Jereme

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    Jereme,
    I just wanted to vote for the eSword installer, eSword is the best Bible study program available at any price. Since Bible Study is the most important aspect of Christianity, I think it is the most important app we have. The installer did work when Gutsy first came out, but it broke shortly after. I have been trying to get it installed with the generic "How To" every since. I can get eSword to install but the Modules give me fits. I agree with Jim Shunamon, that it is beyond the technical ability of most Ubuntu Users.

    I also want to say God Bless you for standing up and doing "the right thing". I am sure that a lot of us would be happy to through an offering into the collection plate to help you get a new Computer, if you would accept it.

    May God Bless You and Yours, as well as your efforts to help spread the word.
    Carl

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    Yes, I want to put in my vote for e-Sword as well.

    Sorry about your troubles Jereme. Feels like you are being punished by them keeping your laptop. It is not evidence. I am glad to see that Hardy is the focus now.

    To be honest I do not use CE. I just put e-Sword on regular Ubuntu. Having e-Sword is the only reason I so quickly switched over to Ubuntu from XP. I can't go back now, but not having a Bible program that allows me to click on a word and see the Hebrew or Greek definition is all important. (I had to switch to another computer and thus a new install.) Multiple Bible versions are nice, but what is really important is what the original language actually says. (There are instances where the English is not only misleading, but the opposite in meaning.) If you use Strong's Concordance read his instructions for use!

    Here is a simple one. Romans 14:14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing common of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be common, to him it is common.

    Makes a big difference if you understand the difference between common and unclean.

    Tim

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