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    Installing XP SP3 - fails to see HD

    I finally got around to buying a new drive and installing 64-bit 8.10. Everything's running well enough (except Jdeveloper, which is typical) but now I'm trying to add Windows so I can use some games that are just too sluggish under Wine and I'm blocked solidly before the install even starts.

    I actually tried installing Windows first, to make everything easier, but didn't have time to waste on this problem and wasn't getting anywhere with it.

    What happens is, I start up with the Windows install disc (slipstreamed SP3, actually) and when it gets to the point where it should ask me how to handle putting Windows on the hard disk, it says it couldn't find one.

    I theorized maybe it just lacked drivers, but when hitting F6 to indicate I might have some tasty new drivers for it to use, it said there was no hard disk available for it to apply them.

    Wot?

    (Edit: I suppose I should mention this is a Serval Pro 3...)

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    Re: Installing XP SP3 - fails to see HD

    Hi, Trevor.

    Try disabling AHCI in your BIOS.

    If that doesn't work, you can slipstream SATA drivers into the install disk. There are a number of tutorials out there on this. Let me know if disabling AHCI doesn't work, and I'll help you find a good one.
    To err is human, to forgive is very ... dog-like.

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    Re: Installing XP SP3 - fails to see HD

    Disabling AHCI did the trick!

    Still having trouble, though. Window is fully installed and I juggled he MBR as per the wiki [https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot] but when I attempt to select XP from grub, I get a message about autocheck and a BSoD.

    Google has provided some clues but none of them have panned out.

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    Re: Installing XP SP3 - fails to see HD

    Further, more terrifying troubles have arisen.

    Grub is now spitting out error 17 at boot. I can't boot Windows OR Linux.

    I'm not sure what changed. But I believe some of the grub commands I came across in my efforts to solve the above problem are the cause.

    This thread linked to a neat script for spitting out a bunch of (hopefully) helpful information.

    Code:
    ============================= Boot Info Summary: ==============================
    
     => Grub0.97 is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks on the same drive 
        in partition #7 for /boot/grub/stage2 and /boot/grub/menu.lst.
    
    sda1: _________________________________________________________________________
    
        File system:       ntfs
        Boot sector type:  Windows XP
        Boot sector info:  No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
        Operating System:  Windows XP
        Boot files/dirs:   /boot.ini /ntldr /NTDETECT.COM
    
    sda2: _________________________________________________________________________
    
        File system:       Extended Partition
        Boot sector type:  -
        Boot sector info:  
    
    sda5: _________________________________________________________________________
    
        File system:       swap
        Boot sector type:  -
        Boot sector info:  
    
    sda6: _________________________________________________________________________
    
        File system:       ext3
        Boot sector type:  -
        Boot sector info:  
        Operating System:  
        Boot files/dirs:   
    
    sda7: _________________________________________________________________________
    
        File system:       ext3
        Boot sector type:  -
        Boot sector info:  
        Boot file info:     Grub0.97 in the file /mbr.bin looks at sector 1 of the 
                           same hard drive for the stage2 file. A stage2 file is 
                           at this location on /dev/sda. Stage2 looks on the same 
                           partition for /boot/grub/stage2.
        Operating System:  Ubuntu 8.10
        Boot files/dirs:   /boot/grub/menu.lst /etc/fstab
    
    =========================== Drive/Partition Info: =============================
    
    Drive: sda ___________________ _____________________________________________________
    
    Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x000905d6
    
    Partition  Boot         Start           End          Size  Id System
    
    /dev/sda1    *             63    97,659,134    97,659,072  83 Linux
    /dev/sda2          97,659,135   976,768,064   879,108,930   5 Extended
    /dev/sda5          97,659,198    97,916,174       256,977  92 Unknown
    /dev/sda6          97,916,238   488,536,649   390,620,412  93 Amoeba/Accidently Hidden Linux
    /dev/sda7         488,536,713   976,768,064   488,231,352  93 Amoeba/Accidently Hidden Linux
    
    
    blkid -c /dev/null: ____________________________________________________________
    
    /dev/sda1: UUID="526893C66893A6EF" TYPE="ntfs" 
    /dev/sda5: UUID="b5c638e7-f121-4e44-b9a8-cacbbde5f57b" TYPE="swap" 
    /dev/sda6: UUID="391c4804-852e-4040-8cdd-6cb65b2e3c7e" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3" 
    /dev/sda7: UUID="6be36281-6d3f-4108-ba77-295e132cae5b" TYPE="ext3" 
    /dev/loop0: TYPE="squashfs" 
    
    =============================== "mount" output: ===============================
    
    /proc on /proc type proc (rw)
    sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
    tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
    tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
    tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
    varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
    varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
    udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
    tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
    devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620)
    rootfs on / type rootfs (rw)
    fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
    /dev/scd0 on /cdrom type iso9660 (ro,noatime)
    /dev/loop0 on /rofs type squashfs (ro,noatime)
    tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
    binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
    gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/ubuntu/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=ubuntu)
    /dev/sda7 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
    
    
    ================================ sda1/boot.ini: ================================
    
    [boot loader]
    
    timeout=30
    
    default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
    
    [operating systems]
    
    multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
    
    
    =========================== sda7/boot/grub/menu.lst: ===========================
    
    # menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8)
    #            grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8),
    #            grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub
    #            and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/.
    
    ## default num
    # Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and
    # the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used.
    #
    # You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry
    # is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'.
    # WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not use 'savedefault' or your
    # array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
    default		0
    
    ## timeout sec
    # Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry
    # (normally the first entry defined).
    timeout		3
    
    ## hiddenmenu
    # Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)
    hiddenmenu
    
    # Pretty colours
    #color cyan/blue white/blue
    
    ## password ['--md5'] passwd
    # If used in the first section of a menu file, disable all interactive editing
    # control (menu entry editor and command-line)  and entries protected by the
    # command 'lock'
    # e.g. password topsecret
    #      password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/
    # password topsecret
    
    #
    # examples
    #
    # title		Windows 95/98/NT/2000
    # root		(hd0,0)
    # makeactive
    # chainloader	+1
    #
    # title		Linux
    # root		(hd0,1)
    # kernel	/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
    #
    
    #
    # Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST
    
    ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
    ## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
    ## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below
    
    ## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs
    
    ## ## Start Default Options ##
    ## default kernel options
    ## default kernel options for automagic boot options
    ## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
    ## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
    ## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
    ##      kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
    ##      kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
    # kopt=root=UUID=6be36281-6d3f-4108-ba77-295e132cae5b ro
    
    ## default grub root device
    ## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
    # groot=6be36281-6d3f-4108-ba77-295e132cae5b
    
    ## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options
    ## e.g. alternative=true
    ##      alternative=false
    # alternative=true
    
    ## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options
    ## e.g. lockalternative=true
    ##      lockalternative=false
    # lockalternative=false
    
    ## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
    ## alternatives
    ## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
    # defoptions=quiet splash
    
    ## should update-grub lock old automagic boot options
    ## e.g. lockold=false
    ##      lockold=true
    # lockold=false
    
    ## Xen hypervisor options to use with the default Xen boot option
    # xenhopt=
    
    ## Xen Linux kernel options to use with the default Xen boot option
    # xenkopt=console=tty0
    
    ## altoption boot targets option
    ## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
    ## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
    ##      altoptions=(recovery) single
    # altoptions=(recovery mode) single
    
    ## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
    ## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
    ## alternative kernel options
    ## e.g. howmany=all
    ##      howmany=7
    # howmany=all
    
    ## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option
    ## e.g. memtest86=true
    ##      memtest86=false
    # memtest86=true
    
    ## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system
    ## can be true or false
    # updatedefaultentry=false
    
    ## should update-grub add savedefault to the default options
    ## can be true or false
    # savedefault=false
    
    ## ## End Default Options ##
    
    title		Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-11-generic
    uuid		6be36281-6d3f-4108-ba77-295e132cae5b
    kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-11-generic root=UUID=6be36281-6d3f-4108-ba77-295e132cae5b ro quiet splash 
    initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-11-generic
    quiet
    
    title		Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-11-generic (recovery mode)
    uuid		6be36281-6d3f-4108-ba77-295e132cae5b
    kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-11-generic root=UUID=6be36281-6d3f-4108-ba77-295e132cae5b ro  single
    initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-11-generic
    
    title		Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-7-generic
    uuid		6be36281-6d3f-4108-ba77-295e132cae5b
    kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic root=UUID=6be36281-6d3f-4108-ba77-295e132cae5b ro quiet splash 
    initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-7-generic
    quiet
    
    title		Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-7-generic (recovery mode)
    uuid		6be36281-6d3f-4108-ba77-295e132cae5b
    kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic root=UUID=6be36281-6d3f-4108-ba77-295e132cae5b ro  single
    initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-7-generic
    
    title		Ubuntu 8.10, memtest86+
    uuid		6be36281-6d3f-4108-ba77-295e132cae5b
    kernel		/boot/memtest86+.bin
    quiet
    
    ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
    
    =============================== sda7/etc/fstab: ===============================
    
    # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
    #
    # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
    proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
    # /dev/sda7
    UUID=6be36281-6d3f-4108-ba77-295e132cae5b /               ext3    relatime,errors=remount-ro 0       1
    # /dev/sda6
    UUID=391c4804-852e-4040-8cdd-6cb65b2e3c7e /home           ext3    relatime        0       2
    # /dev/sda5
    UUID=b5c638e7-f121-4e44-b9a8-cacbbde5f57b none            swap    sw              0       0
    /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
    
    =================== sda7: Location of files loaded by Grub: ===================
    
    
     446.6GB: boot/grub/menu.lst
     446.5GB: boot/grub/stage2
     446.5GB: boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-11-generic
     446.5GB: boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-7-generic
     446.5GB: boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-11-generic
     446.5GB: boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic
     446.5GB: initrd.img
     446.5GB: initrd.img.old
     446.5GB: vmlinuz
     446.5GB: vmlinuz.old
    If it's not "fdisk /mbr", I'm just not sure what to do at this point.

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    Re: Installing XP SP3 - fails to see HD

    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor Bramble View Post
    Further, more terrifying troubles have arisen.

    Grub is now spitting out error 17 at boot. I can't boot Windows OR Linux.
    ...
    If it's not "fdisk /mbr", I'm just not sure what to do at this point.
    If I remember correctly then Error 17 has to do with the BIOS drive layout being different, it's possible that switching the AHCI option caused that - you could try switching it back.
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    Re: Installing XP SP3 - fails to see HD

    In dont know about the BIOS in your laptop, but for the Pangolin in BIOS there is an option that asks what OS you us. Windows XP has to be selected in order to boot properly.

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    Re: Installing XP SP3 - fails to see HD

    Also the instructions you found are different from the ones from the S76 web site.
    http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Win...stem76_Machine

    The S76 ones worked just fine for me with WindowsXP SP3

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    Re: Installing XP SP3 - fails to see HD

    Thanks for your help guys.

    I actually did try switching AHCI back, but it didn't change anything (I've since turned it off again).

    There isn't any option in the SerP3 BIOS for OS, so unfortunately that's not the answer either.

    The trouble with any of the grub recovery attempts I see is that none of them appear to know how I should handle what happens here:
    Code:
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub
    Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
    
           [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported.   For
             the   first   word,  TAB  lists  possible  command
             completions.  Anywhere else TAB lists the possible
             completions of a device/filename. ]
    grub> root (hd0,0)
    root (hd0,0)
    grub> setup (hd0)
    setup (hd0)
    
    Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
    grub> quit
    quit
    Now what? =^(

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    Re: Installing XP SP3 - fails to see HD

    Here's what really confuses me. Everything I did should be reversible.

    I followed the Ubuntu wiki instructions as mentioned above, where dd is used to create the backup of the mbr. Likewise I copied menu.lst to menu.lst.working before modification.

    Replacing mbr.bin and menu.lst does NOTHING. No change! Why not??

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    Re: Installing XP SP3 - fails to see HD

    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor Bramble View Post
    Here's what really confuses me. Everything I did should be reversible.

    I followed the Ubuntu wiki instructions as mentioned above, where dd is used to create the backup of the mbr. Likewise I copied menu.lst to menu.lst.working before modification.

    Replacing mbr.bin and menu.lst does NOTHING. No change! Why not??
    1) Are you sure that's the correct partition?
    2) Is the partition no-longer marked bootable?
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