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    Re: Internet documentation for Jaunty

    Quote Originally Posted by ddrichardson View Post
    Thanks, it wasn't a question - just needed confirmation I understood your setup.

    Its a good point though - I tend to assume that all users are coming from Windows which obviously isn't the case, so I need to add that a user might need to set up their Verizon account through 197.168.1.1 or whatever.
    Indeed, it might be a bit difficult to do through the modem itself but it can be done.

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    Re: Internet documentation for Jaunty

    Here where I live (São Paulo, Brazil) I'm using (A)DSL. It's like perlluver said, only I haven't a router so there's no connection until I configure it (basically give the username and the password). That's why some people talk about the system not searching stuff online while installing, at least unless the user authorizes, cos it's just a chance to hinder the process when there's that problem with too much traffic at the servers. Now I'm using 8.04 and the NM is an older version; but I've used Interepid for 3 months. I'm not sure why but I've configured the network through pppoeconf and then the NM showed 'network unmanaged' like if it was overidden from the pppoeconf settings. Here in Hardy it doesn't show that cos, I think, it has that blocking function that's not present in Intrepid.
    Anyway, both CrunchBang Linux and Knoppix 6 have a similar NM to ubuntu (only they have too that password checking enabled) and for both it boots automatically in eth0 but that doesn't work for us here (unless there's a router configured before the modem) since we need to authenticate the session. So we must create a DSL connection, i.e., input the username and the password, then I'm not sure if it's needed to logout before that takes effect but we then choose the DSLn. There are options to make it the default connection and to connect at boot time if I remember well but I don't remember if it works. Note that when configured through pppoeconf the network connection works allright. As stated, the NM in Intrepid is just as the ones in CB an Knoppix but I don't know if it has something to do with the desktop design or if it didn't work at first but when I though of using it (also in Hardy) it was too late since I had it configured already. But I have only one connection and no wireless so no need for the best feature of the NM that is to manage multiple connections.

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    Re: Internet documentation for Jaunty

    Thanks ikisham - yes NM now controls those files.
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    Re: Internet documentation for Jaunty

    My att dsl modem has an address of 192.168.1.1. It can be configured, reset, tested etc, through firefox. Jaunty connects through a ethernet switch and wireless router to the dsl modem automatically.(This machine is hardwired).

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    Re: Internet documentation for Jaunty

    Quote Originally Posted by markbuntu View Post
    My att dsl modem has an address of 192.168.1.1. It can be configured, reset, tested etc, through firefox. Jaunty connects through a ethernet switch and wireless router to the dsl modem automatically.(This machine is hardwired).
    Thanks for responding - to clarify, do you have a DSL modem attached to a router? Does NetworkManager connect to an ethernet or a wireless connection?
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    Re: Internet documentation for Jaunty

    Quote Originally Posted by ddrichardson View Post
    Thanks for responding - to clarify, do you have a DSL modem attached to a router? Does NetworkManager connect to an ethernet or a wireless connection?
    The DSL modem is attached to the router which is attached to the ethernet switch which is attached to the pc. Like this

    Internet--ATT DSL Modem--Belkin Wireless G Router--Trendnet Ethernet Switch--PC. It is all hardwired together. It seems the switch and router are transparent to Network Manager. There are no other machines on the internal network right now.

    Here is the relevant /var/log/syslog excerpt from the last jaunty boot.

    Code:
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  (eth0): device state change: 1 -> 2 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  (eth0): bringing up device. 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  (eth0): preparing device. 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  (eth0): deactivating device (reason: 2). 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  (eth0): carrier now ON (device state 2) 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  (eth0): device state change: 2 -> 3 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop kernel: [   28.837459] r8169: eth0: link up
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop kernel: [   28.837471] r8169: eth0: link up
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop nm-system-settings: Adding default connection 'Auto eth0' for /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/net_00_e0_4d_9e_7b_81
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth0) starting connection 'Auto eth0' 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  (eth0): device state change: 3 -> 4 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled... 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started... 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled... 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete. 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting... 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  (eth0): device state change: 4 -> 5 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) successful. 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) scheduled. 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete. 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) started... 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  (eth0): device state change: 5 -> 7 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth0) Beginning DHCP transaction. 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  dhclient started with pid 4145 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth0) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) complete. 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop dhclient: Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.1.1
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop dhclient: Copyright 2004-2008 Internet Systems Consortium.
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop dhclient: All rights reserved.
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop dhclient: For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop dhclient: 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  DHCP: device eth0 state changed (null) -> preinit 
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop dhclient: Listening on LPF/eth0/00:e0:4d:9e:7b:81
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop dhclient: Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:e0:4d:9e:7b:81
    Feb 25 16:05:24 mark-jaunty-desktop dhclient: Sending on   Socket/fallback
    Feb 25 16:05:25 mark-jaunty-desktop avahi-daemon[3380]: Registering new address record for fe80::2e0:4dff:fe9e:7b81 on eth0.*.
    Feb 25 16:05:27 mark-jaunty-desktop dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
    Feb 25 16:05:27 mark-jaunty-desktop dhclient: DHCPOFFER of 192.168.2.2 from 192.168.2.1
    Feb 25 16:05:27 mark-jaunty-desktop dhclient: DHCPREQUEST of 192.168.2.2 on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
    Feb 25 16:05:27 mark-jaunty-desktop dhclient: DHCPACK of 192.168.2.2 from 192.168.2.1
    Feb 25 16:05:27 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  DHCP: device eth0 state changed preinit -> bound 
    Feb 25 16:05:27 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth0) Stage 4 of 5 (IP Configure Get) scheduled... 
    Feb 25 16:05:27 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth0) Stage 4 of 5 (IP Configure Get) started... 
    Feb 25 16:05:27 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>    address 192.168.2.2 
    Feb 25 16:05:27 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>    prefix 24 (255.255.255.0) 
    Feb 25 16:05:27 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>    gateway 192.168.2.1 
    Feb 25 16:05:27 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>    nameserver '192.168.2.1' 
    Feb 25 16:05:27 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>    nameserver '64.105.204.28' 
    Feb 25 16:05:27 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>    nameserver '64.105.124.155' 
    Feb 25 16:05:27 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>    domain name 'WTFOVER' 
    Feb 25 16:05:27 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth0) Stage 5 of 5 (IP Configure Commit) scheduled... 
    Feb 25 16:05:27 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth0) Stage 4 of 5 (IP Configure Get) complete. 
    Feb 25 16:05:27 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth0) Stage 5 of 5 (IP Configure Commit) started... 
    Feb 25 16:05:27 mark-jaunty-desktop dhclient: bound to 192.168.2.2 -- renewal in 2147483648 seconds.
    Feb 25 16:05:27 mark-jaunty-desktop avahi-daemon[3380]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.2.2.
    Feb 25 16:05:27 mark-jaunty-desktop avahi-daemon[3380]: New relevant interface eth0.IPv4 for mDNS.
    Feb 25 16:05:27 mark-jaunty-desktop avahi-daemon[3380]: Registering new address record for 192.168.2.2 on eth0.IPv4.
    Feb 25 16:05:28 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  (eth0): device state change: 7 -> 8 
    Feb 25 16:05:28 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  Policy set 'Auto eth0' (eth0) as default for routing and DNS. 
    Feb 25 16:05:28 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth0) successful, device activated. 
    Feb 25 16:05:28 mark-jaunty-desktop NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (eth0) Stage 5 of 5 (IP Configure Commit) complete. 
    Feb 25 16:05:31 mark-jaunty-desktop ntpdate[4208]: adjust time server 91.189.94.4 offset -0.375309 sec
    Feb 25 16:05:34 mark-jaunty-desktop kernel: [   39.648022] eth0: no IPv6 routers present

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    Re: Internet documentation for Jaunty

    OK so as far as NM is concerned its an ethernet connection to a DHCP server. Thanks again.

    What I need now is someone who has tried to connect using a mobile internet dongle or who has had to use the DSL settings in NM.
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    Re: Internet documentation for Jaunty

    Ive tried to connect through mobile broadband
    Its a Dell 5520 Generic I Mobile Broadband (3G HSPDA) Minicard (Actually a Expedite EU870D MiniCard (Rev. 02)). Broadband service through Telstra Bigpond NextG service (Australia). The machine is a Dell inspiron 1520 laptop. Tried about a dozen linux/BSD distros, with no success connecting to the internet through my card. Ive trawled the internet from top to bottom, and the only information regarding my card either is open ended (no solution) or reads like a scientific journal. The card works fine in windows (Ive been trying to shake the habit, but without hardware support for my card i aint going nowhere ). The service provider (bigpond) is no help as they only provide support for windows or mac, and refuse any linux support queries. Dell and its ever shrinking Ubuntu line of laptops, doesnt seem to have any linux support for my card either. I was thinking perhaps an earlier version of Ubuntu might be better for my EU870D card? Anyway sry 4 rant

    Dave

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    Re: Internet documentation for Jaunty

    OK - sorry to hear you have problems. I don't want to sideline this discussion into support for a single connection type but as you mention it works in Windows, is it one of these devices that has a small area of flash ram that contains its Windows driver?

    I only ask because sometimes these are misidentified (kinda - it is a mass storage device) and the fact that its a modem is missed. I had to create a udev rule for one a friend at work was using.
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    Re: Internet documentation for Jaunty

    I don't know if that helps you, but with a clean install there are no VPN clients installed and the VPN tab in NM is completely grayed out without any indication how to change that...

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