Seperate home install 8.04 over a 6.06

[Dutch]

Hi,

have Ubuntu 6.06 installed with a seperate /home

/dev/sda1 ntfs 15002 Mb (with Windows)
/dev/sda3 ext3 15002 Mb (running Ubuntu)
/dev/sda5 ext3 46003 Mb (data for Ubuntu= /home)
/dev/sda6 swap 1398 Mb (swap)
/dev/sda2 fat32 2623 Mb (W98 trubble shoot)

Oke starting up the 8.04 CD I arived at the partition thing, and really got stuck.
My goal is to just install the Ubuntu 8.04 on the sda3, leave the seperate home.
(oh upgrading is not an option, the sytem is ****** up

[frost151n]

hey.
I think if you mount your sda5 as /home and DON'T format, you'll be fine.

Go manual, select sda3, select edit, choose '/' and check 'format' -Ok
select sda5 select edit, choose '/home' and UNcheck 'format' -Ok

Continue...

[Dutch]

Oke frost thanks, I'll try and let you know.

Mmmmm not everything went well.
After the HD instructions, I've checked the option "Import settings and ....from 6.06"

I wont bother you with losing the password.

But this is what I got:
All my earlyer settings are gone. My two Thunderbirds are gone and all the extra programms installed are gone. (don't bother, I've got them saved (Thank God for the 16Gb USB sticks

Sda3 has indeed the program on it.
But the hda5 I have to find through system ==> HD ==> partitions
On the HDA5 are files named "root volume" and there are also the maps: bin,dev, etc, home (with the new account: paul, but totaly empty)
and also my old account, with my old desktop and the maps on that desktop.


What happened ?
Can I just remove the extra bin,dev,etc files on the hda5 ?

[frost151n]

So your problems are thus
1. Your sda5 will not mount automatically at bootup
2. Your sda5 is not your /home/(username)
3. There are files on your sda5 that should not be there
4. You have lost your settings and programs

Download this file. Then post the output of

sudo bash boot_info_script*.sh

This should shed light on the first 2 issues.

3- Maybe Ubuntu made those directories because you imported your settings. I have never in my life imported anything when installing Ubuntu so I don't really know what it does.

4- This I expected because we formated your sda3 which was necesary because you were installing 8.10 over 6.06. Good thing you have backups!!!

[Dutch]

Oke Frost,

thanks for replying.
Extra information: I've checked the version of Ubuntu.
I used the 8.04 edition and the 6.06 edition is installed
I thought with copying the old settings my old programms would be saved.

Indeed I'm glad that the USB 18 Gb existst ! And I'm glad with a new start.
Indeed I asked help with a new install, not with a upgrade. (But next time you may notice that

Oke, I downloaded your file, but what do I have to do to install it ?
Because when I use you're code it does not reconise the command.

Thanks.

[Elfy]

What problem do you actually have - while that script is useful in some situations - it gives a lot of information that probably is unnecessary.

On the HDA5 are files named "root volume" and there are also the maps: bin,dev, etc, home (with the new account: paul, but totaly empty)
and also my old account, with my old desktop and the maps on that desktop.

This would imply to me that you didn't actually have a seperate home in the first place

Could you run these and post the outputs please

sudo fdisk -l
cat /etc/fstab
df -h

Copying the configs does just that - the program itself will still need to be installed.

[Dutch]

paul@Paul-IBM:~$ sudo fdisk -l
Password:

Schijf /dev/hda: 80.0 GB, 80032038912 bytes
255 koppen, 63 sectoren/spoor, 9730 cylinders
Eenheden = cylinders van 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

 Apparaat Boot      Start         Einde    Blokken  Id  Systeem
/dev/hda1   *           1        1824    14651248+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda2            9412        9730     2562367+  1c  Verborgen W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/hda3            1825        3648    14651280   83  Linux
/dev/hda4            3649        9411    46291297+   5  Uitgebreid
/dev/hda5            3649        9241    44925741   83  Linux
/dev/hda6            9242        9411     1365493+  82  Linux-swap / Solaris

Partitietabel ingangen zijn niet in schijfvolgorde

Schijf /dev/sda: 16.7 GB, 16777216000 bytes
253 koppen, 63 sectoren/spoor, 2055 cylinders
Eenheden = cylinders van 15939 * 512 = 8160768 bytes

 Apparaat Boot      Start         Einde    Blokken  Id  Systeem
/dev/sda1   *           1        2056    16383937    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)

Schijf /dev/sdb: 16.7 GB, 16777216000 bytes
253 koppen, 63 sectoren/spoor, 2055 cylinders
Eenheden = cylinders van 15939 * 512 = 8160768 bytes

 Apparaat Boot      Start         Einde    Blokken  Id  Systeem
/dev/sdb1   *           1        2056    16383937    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)

paul@Paul-IBM:~$ cat /etc/fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
/dev/hda5       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0    1
/dev/hda2       /media/hda2     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1/dev/hda3       /media/hda3     ext3    defaults        0       2
/dev/hda6       none            swap    sw              0       0
/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
paul@Paul-IBM:~$

paul@Paul-IBM:~$ df -h
Bestandssysteem            Grtte  Gebr Besch Geb% Aangekoppeld op
/dev/hda5              43G   33G  7,9G  81% /
varrun                490M   80K  490M   1% /var/run
varlock               490M  4,0K  490M   1% /var/lock
udev                  490M  176K  490M   1% /dev
devshm                490M     0  490M   0% /dev/shm
lrm                   490M   19M  472M   4% /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/volatile
/dev/hda1              14G   11G  3,6G  75% /media/hda1
/dev/hda2             2,5G  2,3G  201M  92% /media/hda2
/dev/hda3              14G  2,2G   12G  17% /media/hda3
/dev/sda1              16G  7,6G  8,1G  49% /media/usbdisk
/dev/sdb1              16G  2,5G   14G  16% /media/BRIEVEN_USB
paul@Paul-IBM:~$

[Elfy]

Well I would say that you have installed over your old /home

/dev/sda5 ext3 46003 Mb (data for Ubuntu= /home)

/dev/hda5 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1

Also does your fstab actually look like that?

/dev/hda2       /media/hda2     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1/dev/hda3

or is it the way it has pasted?

You could double check - look at the menu.lst and compare the UUID

blkid
cat /boot/grub/menu.lst

IT should show UUID instead of root in the menu list. If you are not sure what you are looking at then post the blkid and menu, but I think it will confirm what I am thinking

[Dutch]

Thanks.
Need explanation, because the autcome is acacadabra to me

paul@Paul-IBM:~$ blkid
/dev/hda6: TYPE="swap" UUID="99bf63ac-1256-488c-8892-070460ca596a"
/dev/sda1: UUID="C0EB-3A3B" TYPE="vfat"
/dev/sdb1: UUID="242F-DB2E" TYPE="vfat"
paul@Paul-IBM:~

paul@Paul-IBM:~$ cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
# menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8)
#            grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8),
#            grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub
#            and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/.

## default num
# Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and
# the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used.
#
# You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry
# is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'.
# WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not change this entry to 'saved' or your
# array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
default         0

## timeout sec
# Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry
# (normally the first entry defined).
timeout         10

## hiddenmenu
# Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)
#hiddenmenu

# Pretty colours
#color cyan/blue white/blue

## password ['--md5'] passwd
# If used in the first section of a menu file, disable all interactive editing
# control (menu entry editor and command-line)  and entries protected by the
# command 'lock'
# e.g. password topsecret
#      password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/
# password topsecret

#
# examples
#
# title         Windows 95/98/NT/2000
# root          (hd0,0)
# makeactive
# chainloader   +1
#
# title         Linux
# root          (hd0,1)
# kernel        /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
#

#
# Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST

### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below

## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs

## ## Start Default Options ##
## default kernel options
## default kernel options for automagic boot options
## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
##      kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
##      kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
# kopt=root=/dev/hda5 ro

## default grub root device
## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
# groot=(hd0,4)

## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. alternative=true
##      alternative=false
# alternative=true

## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. lockalternative=true
##      lockalternative=false
# lockalternative=false

## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
## alternatives
## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
# defoptions=quiet splash

## altoption boot targets option
## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
##      altoptions=(recovery mode) single
# altoptions=(recovery mode) single

## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
## alternative kernel options
## e.g. howmany=all
##      howmany=7
# howmany=all

## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option
## e.g. memtest86=true
##      memtest86=false
# memtest86=true

## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system
## can be true or false
# updatedefaultentry=false

## ## End Default Options ##

title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-53-386
root            (hd0,4)
kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-53-386 root=/dev/hda5 ro quiet splash
initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-53-386
savedefault
boot

title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-53-386 (recovery mode)
root            (hd0,4)
kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-53-386 root=/dev/hda5 ro single
initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-53-386
boot

title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-23-386
root            (hd0,4)
kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/hda5 ro quiet splash
initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-23-386
savedefault
boot

title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-23-386 (recovery mode)
root            (hd0,4)
kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/hda5 ro single
initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-23-386
boot

title           Ubuntu, memtest86+
root            (hd0,4)
kernel          /boot/memtest86+.bin
boot

### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

# This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian
# ones.
title           Other operating systems:
root


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
# on /dev/hda1
title           Microsoft Windows XP Professional
root            (hd0,0)
savedefault
makeactive
chainloader     +1


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/hda3.
title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-27-686 (on /dev/hda3)
root            (hd0,2)
kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-686 root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash
initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-27-686
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/hda3.
title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-27-686 (recovery mode) (on /dev/hda3)
root            (hd0,2)
kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-686 root=/dev/hda3 ro single
initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-27-686
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/hda3.
title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-27-386 (on /dev/hda3)
root            (hd0,2)
kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash
initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-27-386
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/hda3.
title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-27-386 (recovery mode) (on /dev/hda3)
root            (hd0,2)
kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro single
initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-27-386
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/hda3.
title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-26-686 (on /dev/hda3)
root            (hd0,2)
kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-686 root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash
initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-26-686
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/hda3.
title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-26-686 (recovery mode) (on /dev/hda3)
root            (hd0,2)
kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-686 root=/dev/hda3 ro single
initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-26-686
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/hda3.
title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-26-386 (on /dev/hda3)
root            (hd0,2)
kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash
initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-26-386
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/hda3.
title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-26-386 (recovery mode) (on /dev/hda3)
root            (hd0,2)
kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro single
initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-26-386
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/hda3.
title           Ubuntu, memtest86+ (on /dev/hda3)
root            (hd0,2)
kernel          /boot/memtest86+.bin
savedefault
boot

paul@Paul-IBM:~$

Plus again the fstab

paul@Paul-IBM:~$ cat /etc/fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
/dev/hda5       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0    1
/dev/hda2       /media/hda2     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1/dev/hda3       /media/hda3     ext3    defaults        0       2
/dev/hda6       none            swap    sw              0       0
/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
paul@Paul-IBM:~$

[Elfy]

As I thought your old /home partition has been overwritten by the install.

Your current menu boots on hda5 - which according to your first post is where you had your home.

So what issue do you actually have to deal with here?