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Thread: POLL: Do you want to have CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE disabled in Jaunty?

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    Re: POLL: Do you want to have CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE disabled in Jaunty?

    Quote Originally Posted by lexe-cc View Post
    I need the key combo because sometimes my ati card fails at boot up, leaving some sort of distorted image. This is where the combo comes in handy.
    Besides I believe the combo proves useful to many people. Also, how could you possibly "accidentally" hit that combination

    Lexe
    here are a couple of examples on netbooks/notebooks:

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3208/...1f8ffd98b7.jpg
    http://www.danielmoth.com/Blog/LenovoKeyboardWTF.jpg

    it just takes a slip of a finger...
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    Re: POLL: Do you want to have CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE disabled in Jaunty?

    Quote Originally Posted by zekopeko View Post
    here are a couple of examples on netbooks/notebooks:

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3208/...1f8ffd98b7.jpg
    http://www.danielmoth.com/Blog/LenovoKeyboardWTF.jpg

    it just takes a slip of a finger...
    I have a keyboard almost exactly like that first one and I've never hit ctrl-alt-backspace by accident.

    Just about the only way you could hit it by accident is if you are going for ctrl-alt-del. In a default install of Ubuntu, doesn't ctrl-alt-del just bring up the log out screen? If someone is trying to log out anyways, a finger slip to ctrl-alt-backspace isn't going to be the end of the world. And if someone is sophisticated enough to map ctrl-alt-delete to something besides logging out and a finger slip would be problematic for them, why should we change the behavior of ctrl-alt-backspace for their benefit? If they can change ctrl-alt-del to something else, leave it to them to change ctrl-alt-backspace too.

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    Re: POLL: Do you want to have CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE disabled in Jaunty?

    As stated before, the only 'Accidental' keying would be missing a Ctrl-Alt-Del. You should not be using that to log out anyway. ^d works fine.

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    Re: POLL: Do you want to have CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE disabled in Jaunty?

    I've set up Ubuntu on a personal computer at work. I've told everyone that uses it to use the Ctrl+Alt+Bkspc combination whenever the screen locks up or for whatever reason the session locks up. It is easy to instruct Windows users to use this combination as they are familiar with the 'other' famous Windows 3 finger salute combo. This keeps them from forcing a shutdown on the pc.

    Leave it as it is and maybe set it up as an option you can disable.

    Please don't mess with it.

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    Re: POLL: Do you want to have CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE disabled in Jaunty?

    1. These three keys are awfully hard to "accidentally" hit in combination.
    2. I find this combination beneficial when I am testing and accidentally lock up something.
    3. Just do what OpenSUSE did and implement the X-WARNING Beep. The system alarm beeps twice and waits for an intermittent 1-2 seconds for the keys to be unpressed. If the keys remained pressed, it resets the X server.

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    Re: POLL: Do you want to have CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE disabled in Jaunty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frak View Post
    3. Just do what OpenSUSE did and implement the X-WARNING Beep. The system alarm beeps twice and waits for an intermittent 1-2 seconds for the keys to be unpressed. If the keys remained pressed, it resets the X server.
    That's not a bad idea

    Though as others have mentioned, I've never "accidentally" managed to hit that key combo, even on my laptop.

    Purposefully on somebody elses laptop...now that's a different question

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    Re: POLL: Do you want to have CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE disabled in Jaunty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frak View Post
    1. These three keys are awfully hard to "accidentally" hit in combination.
    2. I find this combination beneficial when I am testing and accidentally lock up something.
    3. Just do what OpenSUSE did and implement the X-WARNING Beep. The system alarm beeps twice and waits for an intermittent 1-2 seconds for the keys to be unpressed. If the keys remained pressed, it resets the X server.
    That's definitely a good idea.
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    Re: POLL: Do you want to have CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE disabled in Jaunty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frak View Post
    1. These three keys are awfully hard to "accidentally" hit in combination.
    2. I find this combination beneficial when I am testing and accidentally lock up something.
    3. Just do what OpenSUSE did and implement the X-WARNING Beep. The system alarm beeps twice and waits for an intermittent 1-2 seconds for the keys to be unpressed. If the keys remained pressed, it resets the X server.
    1. No they're not. There are apps where you are supposed to hit ctrl-alt-delete, but accidentally hit backspace.. all your data is lost, and that's a far more important bug to fix than allowing a convenient way to kill X.
    2. Then set 'Option "DontZap" "no"' in your ServerFlags
    3. This has been discussed on xorg@lists.freedesktop.org numerous times, and the default was changed for xserver 1.6 & master on Oct 08 I think. Check the archives if you like... So, every distro that doesn't change the default will have this behaviour. I'm pretty sure that Fedora will not change it, and know for a fact that Debian won't.

    And if you need to kill a session that's b0rked, you can just hit the reset/power button..

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    Re: POLL: Do you want to have CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE disabled in Jaunty?

    Quote Originally Posted by tepsipakki View Post

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    3. This has been discussed on xorg@lists.freedesktop.org numerous times, and the default was changed for xserver 1.6 & master on Oct 08 I think. Check the archives if you like... So, every distro that doesn't change the default will have this behaviour. I'm pretty sure that Fedora will not change it, and know for a fact that Debian won't.

    And if you need to kill a session that's b0rked, you can just hit the reset/power button..
    While I can see the xorg archives, its a pain going through the archives.

    http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/

    Can somebody point to the specific discussion regarding X-warning beeps .
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    Re: POLL: Do you want to have CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE disabled in Jaunty?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShirishAg75 View Post
    While I can see the xorg archives, its a pain going through the archives.

    http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/

    Can somebody point to the specific discussion regarding X-warning beeps .
    This thread maybe

    http://lists.freedesktop.org/archive...er/038786.html

    the challenge is also support forums or howtos which doesnt mention that all data will be lost.


    Or... introduce a "blue screen"...

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