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Thread: POLL: Do you want to have CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE disabled in Jaunty?

  1. #121
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    Re: POLL: Do you want to have CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE disabled in Jaunty?

    Instead of Alt+Ctrl+BackSpace use Alt+SysRQ+Backspace. Who presses SysRq in real life??

  2. #122
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    Re: POLL: Do you want to have CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE disabled in Jaunty?

    changing it to a different key combo would be worse . since unless all distros did so since it would render Ubuntu "non standard ". Ctrl>alt>bkspc has been the standard for many years , why make us learn a new sequence ?
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    Re: POLL: Do you want to have CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE disabled in Jaunty?

    Absolutely!!! We had enough of this NON-STANDARD malarky with the legacy OS that's so popular - the last thing we want is the dreaded disease spreading to Linux distros!!
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    Re: POLL: Do you want to have CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE disabled in Jaunty?

    holly **** !
    i hate this new stupid idea ....
    because one or two idiots are touching 3 differents keys at the same time the most of us should pay an lost of comfort ?!?

    ok we can enabled it back, but what is the case on live CD ?!?
    or custom ubuntu based disto ?

    because xorg.conf is generated automatically and the enable feature is in this file ....
    oh i forgot i accidentally press the off button and my computer stops can they please disable the off button ??? (i joke not that they listen to me)

    what next ? remove the control alt F1-F6 shortcut ?

  5. #125
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    Re: POLL: Do you want to have CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE disabled in Jaunty?

    Would it be possible to leave it enabled and implement a system to intercept the key combo and then have a gui window to confirm the action?

    Seems like this might keep everyone happy?

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    Re: POLL: Do you want to have CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE disabled in Jaunty?

    Quote Originally Posted by fifth View Post
    Would it be possible to leave it enabled and implement a system to intercept the key combo and then have a gui window to confirm the action?

    Seems like this might keep everyone happy?
    The main reason for needing to use CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE is when something bad happens to the X server (eg, it freezes). If something bad has happened, you can't trust it to be able to display a window, let alone allowing you to click on it.

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    Re: POLL: Do you want to have CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE disabled in Jaunty?

    I apologize in advance, but I'm still not certain as to why or how this got to the table to begin with. The ability to restart X with a key sequence has proven quite useful to me in the past, and it's something that most Linux users are familiar with.

    I could understand the need to turn off this feature if it used the same key sequence that users were already accustomed to for a completely different function, or if the keys were positioned in such a way that it is easy to strike that particular combination. But neither of these are the case; CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE seems peculiar to X (the closest Windows has is CTRL-ALT-DELETE), and it's not a combination that's easy at all to hit upon.

    What I'm saying here is that those who have complained about accidentally restarting X were aware that the key sequence did something, albeit were not fully informed about exactly what it does when it's invoked. I do empathize with them, as I've made mistakes before, but took it as a learning experience.

    As most of our new users come from a Windows background, and the closest Windows equivalent is CTRL-ALT-DEL for bringing up the task manager to get rid of runaway programs, locking the screen, or rebooting the computer, it may well be that the users are merely trying to find an equivalent for these functions when they do hit on this particular combination. Maybe adding the FORCE QUIT button to the panel (perhaps next to the power/switch user button?) would be of more use to the enduser without throwing out a really useful power tool?
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  8. #128
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    Re: POLL: Do you want to have CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE disabled in Jaunty?

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisccoulson View Post
    The main reason for needing to use CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE is when something bad happens to the X server (eg, it freezes). If something bad has happened, you can't trust it to be able to display a window, let alone allowing you to click on it.
    You do bear a good point here.
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  9. #129
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    Re: POLL: Do you want to have CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE disabled in Jaunty?

    I like the idea of keeping the short-cut consistent.

    If the dev's disabled it, a lot of users that currently use it would get frustrated at the unannounced change.
    Last edited by hayden92; January 26th, 2009 at 05:03 AM. Reason: Fix error

  10. #130
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    Re: POLL: Do you want to have CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE disabled in Jaunty?

    I use it all the time. Really though, I wish there was the equivalent to "ctrl-alt-del" for when Ubuntu totally hangs up, and the "skinny elephants" doesn't even work.
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