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  1. #111
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    Re: Installing on the Dell Mini 12

    I guess im joining the thread a little late. Also have a mini12 with Dell's version of Ubuntu, was wondering what exactly was not working with 8.10 versus 8.04.1, since I'd like to update to run VirtualBox on here.
    Also, Dell put in some speedups? Dell's Ubuntu boots to desk in 1min 45secs if someone wanted to compare.

    @Kyle
    Visual Effects are not enabled, and when installed via the repos, don't appear to change anything. Though after reading the description it said it was for KDE so I quickly removed it.
    $ xdpyinfo -queryExtensions
    Code:
    name of display:    :0.0
    version number:    11.0
    vendor string:    The X.Org Foundation
    vendor release number:    10400090
    X.Org version: 1.4.0.90
    maximum request size:  16777212 bytes
    motion buffer size:  256
    bitmap unit, bit order, padding:    32, LSBFirst, 32
    image byte order:    LSBFirst
    number of supported pixmap formats:    7
    supported pixmap formats:
        depth 1, bits_per_pixel 1, scanline_pad 32
        depth 4, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
        depth 8, bits_per_pixel 8, scanline_pad 32
        depth 15, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
        depth 16, bits_per_pixel 16, scanline_pad 32
        depth 24, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
        depth 32, bits_per_pixel 32, scanline_pad 32
    keycode range:    minimum 8, maximum 255
    focus:  window 0x1e00021, revert to Parent
    number of extensions:    33
        BIG-REQUESTS  (opcode: 130)
        Composite  (opcode: 158)
        DAMAGE  (opcode: 159, base event: 117, base error: 189)
        DOUBLE-BUFFER  (opcode: 142, base error: 153)
        DPMS  (opcode: 137)
        Extended-Visual-Information  (opcode: 139)
        GLX  (opcode: 143, base event: 77, base error: 154)
        MIT-SCREEN-SAVER  (opcode: 132, base event: 67)
        MIT-SHM  (opcode: 146, base event: 94, base error: 170)
        MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD  (opcode: 129)
        RANDR  (opcode: 156, base event: 115, base error: 186)
        RECORD  (opcode: 144, base error: 167)
        RENDER  (opcode: 155, base error: 181)
        SECURITY  (opcode: 152, base event: 112, base error: 178)
        SGI-GLX  (opcode: 143, base event: 77, base error: 154)
        SHAPE  (opcode: 128, base event: 64)
        SYNC  (opcode: 131, base event: 65, base error: 128)
        TOG-CUP  (opcode: 138)
        X-Resource  (opcode: 141)
        XAccessControlExtension  (opcode: 151)
        XC-APPGROUP  (opcode: 150, base error: 177)
        XC-MISC  (opcode: 133)
        XFIXES  (opcode: 153, base event: 113, base error: 180)
        XFree86-Bigfont  (opcode: 154)
        XFree86-DGA  (opcode: 136, base event: 68, base error: 145)
        XFree86-DRI  (opcode: 145, base error: 168)
        XFree86-Misc  (opcode: 135, base error: 137)
        XFree86-VidModeExtension  (opcode: 134, base error: 130)
        XINERAMA  (opcode: 157)
        XInputExtension  (opcode: 147, base event: 95, base error: 171)
        XKEYBOARD  (opcode: 149, base event: 111, base error: 176)
        XTEST  (opcode: 148)
        XVideo  (opcode: 140, base event: 75, base error: 150)
    default screen number:    0
    number of screens:    1
    
    screen #0:
      dimensions:    1280x800 pixels (261x163 millimeters)
      resolution:    125x125 dots per inch
      depths (7):    24, 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 32
      root window id:    0x5b
      depth of root window:    24 planes
      number of colormaps:    minimum 1, maximum 1
      default colormap:    0x20
      default number of colormap cells:    256
      preallocated pixels:    black 0, white 16777215
      options:    backing-store NO, save-unders NO
      largest cursor:    64x64
      current input event mask:    0xfac033
        KeyPressMask             KeyReleaseMask           EnterWindowMask          
        LeaveWindowMask          KeymapStateMask          ExposureMask             
        StructureNotifyMask      SubstructureNotifyMask   SubstructureRedirectMask 
        FocusChangeMask          PropertyChangeMask       ColormapChangeMask       
      number of visuals:    17
      default visual id:  0x23
      visual:
        visual id:    0x23
        class:    TrueColor
        depth:    24 planes
        available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
        red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
        significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
      visual:
        visual id:    0x24
        class:    TrueColor
        depth:    24 planes
        available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
        red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
        significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
      visual:
        visual id:    0x25
        class:    TrueColor
        depth:    24 planes
        available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
        red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
        significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
      visual:
        visual id:    0x26
        class:    TrueColor
        depth:    24 planes
        available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
        red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
        significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
      visual:
        visual id:    0x27
        class:    TrueColor
        depth:    24 planes
        available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
        red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
        significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
      visual:
        visual id:    0x28
        class:    TrueColor
        depth:    24 planes
        available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
        red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
        significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
      visual:
        visual id:    0x29
        class:    TrueColor
        depth:    24 planes
        available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
        red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
        significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
      visual:
        visual id:    0x2a
        class:    TrueColor
        depth:    24 planes
        available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
        red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
        significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
      visual:
        visual id:    0x2b
        class:    DirectColor
        depth:    24 planes
        available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
        red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
        significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
      visual:
        visual id:    0x2c
        class:    DirectColor
        depth:    24 planes
        available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
        red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
        significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
      visual:
        visual id:    0x2d
        class:    DirectColor
        depth:    24 planes
        available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
        red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
        significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
      visual:
        visual id:    0x2e
        class:    DirectColor
        depth:    24 planes
        available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
        red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
        significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
      visual:
        visual id:    0x2f
        class:    DirectColor
        depth:    24 planes
        available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
        red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
        significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
      visual:
        visual id:    0x30
        class:    DirectColor
        depth:    24 planes
        available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
        red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
        significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
      visual:
        visual id:    0x31
        class:    DirectColor
        depth:    24 planes
        available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
        red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
        significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
      visual:
        visual id:    0x32
        class:    DirectColor
        depth:    24 planes
        available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
        red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
        significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
      visual:
        visual id:    0x59
        class:    TrueColor
        depth:    32 planes
        available colormap entries:    256 per subfield
        red, green, blue masks:    0xff0000, 0xff00, 0xff
        significant bits in color specification:    8 bits
    p.s. New to Ubuntu, coming from Arch...so I'm not quite sure of how this distro is laid out yet.

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    Re: Installing on the Dell Mini 12

    @irwnfv - The long and short of it is that 8.10 (Ibex) doesn't support the video hardware (Poulsbo US15W) as well as 8.04 (Hardy). The kernel DRM driver hasn't been forward-ported (at least, not officially), so you're stuck with VESA framebuffer driver.

    You also don't get any hardware-accelerated 3D or video playback - in addition to the kernel driver, you need a DRI module, a firmware file and a binary blob (see post #94.) People have tried to graft them onto Ibex, but they only seem to be stable running on Hardy.

    So. If you have the Dell-provided version of Ubuntu, then you already have working 3D and video acceleration. Unfortunately, Compiz still doesn't work, due to a mismatch between what Compiz expects from the 3D driver and what the 3D driver actually provides. Hopefully, a workaround will be found - when I (or someone else) has time to poke at it.

    Also, thanks for the xdpyinfo output - its more confirmation that my install looks pretty much like yours.

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    Re: Installing on the Dell Mini 12

    Yeah Intrepid is not looking so good right now. I haven't been able to identify anything in userland related to X that's not the exact same binary as what works with Hardy (if xserver-xorg-video-psb 0.16.0+repack-0ubuntu1~804um6 is ok there- the only other version I found is 0.2.1-1ubuntu3, which needs an earlier xorg).

    Dennis, the guy you talked to who provided that kernel patch for Mandrake, do you know if he's had any X crashes? The only other changes I made to get the modules to compile with the Ubuntu kernel were quite trivial fixes (the patch itself made a couple changes that were only slightly more complicated). I don't see where the issue is coming from, since I would expect any problems with the kernel port to cause an oops or maybe system hang, not internal errors in xorg. Maybe there is something we're missing that is still the wrong version. I'm going to see if Hardy will run ok with a 2.6.27 kernel, then if the failures still occur we'll know the problem is with this klugy DRM port. 2.6.27 does have two advantages: working suspend and SATA support (or does the need for all_generic_ide go away when you have an lpia kernel?). Here's another interesting spec in development:

    http://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubun...ia-versus-i386

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    Re: Installing on the Dell Mini 12

    Hey Kyle,

    no he did not mention anything
    Perhaps you can ask him in #moblin on freenode.

    I removed the 3D drivers and everything is stable now, but no 3D.
    When i can get the DELL Image i think i will have a look at it.

    Regards,
    Dennis

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    Re: Installing on the Dell Mini 12

    irwnfv- I need your help! I sent you a private message...

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    Re: Installing on the Dell Mini 12

    Hmm, this looks like it might help my quest to get Linux working on my Menlow/Poulsbo based Panasonic CF-U1: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=201018

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    Re: Installing on the Dell Mini 12

    Has anyone installed 8.04 on their mini 12 with success? Are the steps similar to 8.10?

    I have tried for days to get the Dell recovery DVD to boot from a USB stick but cannot make it happen. I can make regular 8.10 iso's boot, but not the Dell recovery DVD. Maddening.

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    Re: Installing on the Dell Mini 12

    Quote Originally Posted by jabronioh View Post
    Has anyone installed 8.04 on their mini 12 with success? Are the steps similar to 8.10?
    There are instructions for installing the Netbook Remix at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR, which is Hardy-based, including instructions for using a USB image instead of an ISO. I ended up doing a PXE-based network install, but only because I had the infrastructure (DHCP, TFTP servers) already set up (not for the faint of heart!)

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    Re: Installing on the Dell Mini 12

    The PXE network install sounds fun! I'll have to research it.

    Thanks for the link...I may give that a shot if I can't get Dell to help me..

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    Re: Installing on the Dell Mini 12

    brteag00 - Thanks for the UNR link. They had a tool called image creator or some such and I used that to copy the belmont.....lpia.img file from the recovery DVD to a USB stick and viola', it is all back the way it was. What a relief.

    It's too bad I couldn't just share the image with Dell Mini owners as the install basically just installs Ubuntu...

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